Biden Promises Gun Control by End of January

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According to the Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio...ino_veep_promised_him_fast_action_gun_control), Joe Biden told Thomas Menino (one of the mayors in Bloomberg's anti-gun group) that they would pass legislation by the end of January "guaranteed."

A magazine ban bill has been introduced in the House; but is unlikely to leave the Judiciary committee without active assistance from the GOP. In the Senate, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has said he will extend the first session's legislative day to January 22 - meaning no new legislation introduced in the Senate until then.

That gives 9 days to get a gun control bill through the House and Senate for Joe Biden's guarantee to be true. Now I know that Biden is about as sharp as round post; but he has been in the Senate forever. Even he has to realize that what he "guaranteed" would be extremely difficult even with a relatively uncontroversial bill. With gun control, such a thing has literally never happened.

Part of it makes me wonder if they are deliberately trying to use a panic to create scarcity since they know they are unlikely to achieve one through legislation?

Either way, contact your Congressman and save a box of ammo's worth of cash for your favorite RKBA group. Not only can you protect your rights until more reasonable prices resume, you can make Joe Biden look like an idiot once again.
 
Part of it makes me wonder if they are deliberately trying to use a panic to create scarcity since they know they are unlikely to achieve one through legislation?
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What would that accomplish? It's not really a true scarcity, there are as many guns and mags now as before, it's just that they are with owners instead of sitting in the stores.
 
It is true scarcity all right - try buying or even ordering an AR from a manufacturer. Many dealers are being told they don't know when orders will be filled - which is part of why dealers are marking up rifles to insane prices. If you had no idea when you would get your next AR and your next AR has to yield enough profit to keep you in business until you receive more, that can be very uncertain.

There are a lot of opportunities to end a business there. Order too few and go out of business while you wait for more. Order too many and go out of business if the demand (which is driven primarily by threats from government) suddenly drops and you are stuck with inventory you overpaid for.
 
I guess it's more complicated than I assumed. I always thought if people were buying faster than you could stock something, business was good.
 
I guess it's more complicated than I assumed. I always thought if people were buying faster than you could stock something, business was good.
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If demand is so high for a product that the manufacturer(s) can't keep up, eventually the market gives up on waiting for one and finds a substitute, meaning that by the time the thing is once again available, the market has dried up.
 
"Mumbles" Menino is a simple tool being used to spread disinformation as part of bigger strategy. What that strategy is should be our focus.
 
If demand is so high for a product that the manufacturer(s) can't keep up, eventually the market gives up on waiting for one and finds a substitute, meaning that by the time the thing is once again available, the market has dried up.
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I would think that would be cyclical. If the stores end uip with a glut of AR-15s, then they mark the prices down, then people would start buying them again, eventually it would balance out again.

I guess in the short run, I could see that fluctuation driving a small gun shop out of business.
 
The problem is that in this economy, very few gun shops can afford to buy high and sell low, at least for long.
 
That`s just Joe being Joe. It makes for good reading. That being said,
rest assured, there will be some sort/type of legislation ref: the gun control/large mag issue. That`s a given.
 
A bill will be introduced. That is a given. There is no way it will become a law if we do our part in contacting our elected leaders, writing letters to the editor, give well-reasoned responses on Facebook, etc.
 
I wonder if there are any restrictions proposed, if they will create incredibly stronger sentances, perferably mandentory, for criminals who use firearms in a violent crime?
 
they will create incredibly stronger sentances, perferably mandentory, for criminals who use firearms in a violent crime?
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Nooooo, but you can bet they'll create incredibly stronger mandatory sentences for all of us "potential mass murderers" who own firearms. :uhoh::cuss::cuss::cuss::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
Hypnogator,

Your probably right. Found the below from NY about their possible new AWB after I posted my previous message.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/n...A5bNtmL6jpDeCO

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Efforts by Cuomo to reach an agreement with the Legislature on a package of gun-control laws has, so far, gone nowhere.

Senate Republicans, who will retain enormous power in January, have made it clear they don’t support confiscation of assault weapons or any new severe restrictions on their ownership.

Assembly Democrats back the most severe restrictions but, sources said, have repeatedly refused to agree to sharp increases in penalties for illegal gun possession or for the use of guns in violent crimes.
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Seems they want to ban guns, but not increase punishment, let alone start prosecuting firearm offenses already on the books...I get it. We ban "this" type of firearm, and since the punishment wasnt changed, there was no effect of violent crimes, so they ban "another type" next, and so forth, all the while claiming they are tough on crime, but in reality they just want to take firearms away from the law abiding person, while continuing to let criminals breeze through the revolving door with little to no punishment for violent crimes....

Im sure Biden and Crew will follow along in lockstep, claiming to get tough on crime, but in reality, they dont even try to actually punish those who commit violent crimes, and if they do, its only a basic slap on the wrist.
 
Boston Mayor: Biden ‘Guaranteed’ Me Obama Pass Gun Control Legislation By End Jan

I did not see this posted alread, If it has I apologize. I will admit I do not know as much about how laws are passed as I should. could it really happen that fast?

Boston Mayor: Biden ‘Guaranteed’ Me Obama Will Pass Gun Control Legislation By End Of January

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/04/boston-mayor-biden-guaranteed-me-obama-will-pass-gun-control-legislation-by-end-of-january/

Biden) said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino told the Herald. “They’re going to get it done.”
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This may be the source for for another thread where a member said that AR's would be banned by 2/1.

For Biden to tell the mayor this, and then for that same mayor to broadcast it to the world exposes the arrogance, singlemindedness and undemocratic nature of some of our leaders.

Last time I checked, I believe the American people and their representatives have a say in this.

Last time I checked. Things might've changed since then, I guess.
 
Biden's guarantee and $1 will get you a senior coffee at McDonald's (prices may vary).

This "news flash" is nothing more than a ploy to get additional media coverage to stoke their fantasied outcome.
 
Jim NE, I hope you're right, and this doesn't become an executive order.

I hope we're right in assuming that our reps will actually support our rights. I know one of my senators won't. I'm waiting a bit and I'm going to send out another string of emails, hopefully I'll be able to reach the new folks as well as the old.

What's the term for my approach to this situation? Where I hope it doesn't happen, I do what I can to make it not happen, but I make plans for if it does happen. Or is there a term for this approach? "Prepare" doesn't seem to feet because that sounds like I've made the assumption it will, and I've made no assumptions at this point. I hope and work for one goal, but I'm planning in case of the other as well.
 
Menino added that it’s time for Obama to go after gun legislation since he doesn’t need to pander to pro-gun voters since he’s in his last term.
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Makes no sense. Throw the whole Democratic party under the bus just 'cause one person isn't coming back?

Keep up the pressure. Those people don't want to loose any ground with or without Obama.
 
guzzi said:
Why would a politician want criminals to have the upper hand on the voters?
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Pandering to their base...


Of every one hundred men in battle, ten should not even be there. Eighty, are nothing but targets. Nine are the real fighters, we are lucky to have them since they make the battle. Ah, but the one
 
Mandatory sentences

There are hundreds of gun laws in effect in this country, both state and federal. Some of these carry mandatory sentences upon conviction. The operative term is:CONVICTION. The gun charges will be the FIRST charge that will be plea bargained away, because the thug knows if he/she is convicted - goodbye.
LEO's can charge the offender with what they see as violations, but it is the prosecutor, defense and legal system that "strips" away these mandatory sentences before they go to trial.... real frustrating.
 
Joe Biden was chosen to be the spokesperson for the nonsense that's coming simply because he is washed up politically and the voting booth is no longer a concern of his.
 
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