Not a surveyor but I am a forester in a western ranching state.Just go in armed with a scowl on your face. I worked as a surveyor for 40 years in the western states. I always knew where I was and I also knew who owned the property. I had some pretty heated arguments with farmers and ranchers on public land. Sometimes they think they own everything.
I would wait for Ruger to get the kinks out of their GP100 44spl could be a winner.
hat is a cute 'Lill Feller!Had another 44 Special join my Model 24-3 in the safe.
A 396-1, in 44 Special. An alloy L-frame, with a titanium 5 shot cylinder, round butt, and a 3.5 " barrel. Weighs 18 ounces unloaded, or about the same as my Ruger LC9s.
I've only fired 25 rounds of Magtech 240 grain Cowboy Loads. The recoil was about like the Charter Arms Bulldog with the same loads. I'm sure something hotter would kick more, but I doubt I'll ever shoot anything snappier.
If I still prowled around in the woods, this would be a constant companion I think.
I wouldn't mistake it for a bear gun though. That seems better suited as a street gun.Had another 44 Special join my Model 24-3 in the safe.
A 396-1, in 44 Special. An alloy L-frame, with a titanium 5 shot cylinder, round butt, and a 3.5 " barrel. Weighs 18 ounces unloaded, or about the same as my Ruger LC9s.
I've only fired 25 rounds of Magtech 240 grain Cowboy Loads. The recoil was about like the Charter Arms Bulldog with the same loads. I'm sure something hotter would kick more, but I doubt I'll ever shoot anything snappier.
If I still prowled around in the woods, this would be a constant companion I think.
I think I was thinking 460 SW. Thank for the info.
I'd take a 454 or 45 Colt over a 460 S&W in a heart beat.
Why? I'm not criticizing your choice, and I can infer a lot of the reasons why, but it would be good for the OP to hear your thoughts on this.I'd take a 454 or 45 Colt over a 460 S&W in a heart beat.
Why? I'm not criticizing your choice, and I can infer a lot of the reasons why, but it would be good for the OP to hear your thoughts on this.
Yep, they are big guns for sure. Ridiculously big to some. I agree with you also regarding the perceived benefit. When I bought my 5" 460 mag I wanted something that could send heavy lead down range at high speeds, just cuz. I was set on a SRH in 454 Casull, but then I stumbled upon the 460V. I found the balance and weight worked well for me. I also believed their was a benefit to the high velocities when dealing with heavy critters.I can't speak for jwp, but the deal breaker for me is the size of the revolver necessary to house the .460 over the .454 or .45 Colt. Also, aside from range, you're not really buying yourself a big advantage in killing power. The range is also a non-issue for me as I rarely kill any game over 100 yards with my handguns and they're all plenty accurate and lethal at that range.
While the .454 and .460 are close in performance, the .45 colt is pale by comparison. Altho all are very good cartridges. From my username it is obvious I shoot .460. But I also have platforms in .44 mag and .45 colt. They all have their place in my world of shooting and all work well within their parameters. IMHO, much of the reason the .454 never became really popular is the platforms it is available in. Most .454s use the same platform as the manufacturer's .44 mag and .45 colt and thus recoil is generally brutal with legitimate .454 loads. Take a Marlin lever action in .357. Even young kids enjoy shooting it and folks can shoot it all day without getting a sore shoulder. Now give them the same platform in 45-70(think Guide Gun) and ask them to shoot 50 rounds. While some folks enjoy shooting their Guide Guns, most Guide Guns never see more than a few boxes of ammo. Still, they are great guns for what they are meant for. This was my experience when .454 was introduced, and the shooting of Ruger only loads in .45 Colt. Not an experience I enjoyed, even tho I enjoy shooting .44 mag. Now the .460 in an X-Frame platform is a big chunk of steel and is not a EDC gun. But IME, it will outshoot a .44 mag and .45 Colt @ ranges over 100 yards all day long and be much more comfortable to shoot than most .454s. In his opening post, the OP asked what big bore we enjoyed shooting. I really enjoy shooting my .460. Not only is it one of the most accurate handguns I own, it's also pleasant to shoot. The .460 has a much longer effective hunting range than either also. While it is not as light as my 629 when still hunting, it still is easier to carry than even my handgun caliber carbines...and it's still hunting with a handgun. I have shot .480 Rugers also and they are also a very legitimate big game cartridge, but their effective range is also much shorter than with a .460. I am not saying a .460 is the best. I'm saying it has it's place and it's my choice for certain big game hunting scenarios. Most folks who just want to go to the range and make a big bang shooting factory ammo will be much better served with a .44 or .45 colt. Most folks will be happy with a .44 or .45 colt for deer hunting.......many times I am too. I am happy with my .357s sometimes. From the OPs first post, I'm gonna say his best bet for a step-up from what he has, is a .44 mag.
SlowFuse;
Just to clear something up, many revolvers can shoot more than one cartridge, and I expect you know that. There are many examples such as the .44 Special & .44 magnum & the aforementioned .45 Colt/454 Casull. However, nobody's pointed out in this thread that the .480 Ruger is the little brother cartridge to the .475 Linebaugh. A lot of the reason that isn't widely known is that revolvers capable of handling the .475 Linebaugh don't grow on trees as it were. And, just like the .44 Special/magnum, you can stuff a .480 into a Linebaugh gun, but it's pretty darn hard to get a Linebaugh into a gun that's only chambered for the .480 Ruger. And I don't want to be within about a quarter-mile of anybody who's seriously attempting it.
The .475 is a true powerhouse and no doubt about it. If the platform is a Freedom Arms revolver, the brass and your wrist are about the only practical limitations on the loads.
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MaxP;
Because it's like telling a dedicated mountain climber to just drive to the top of Pike's Peak instead of climbing Everest.
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Except that the difference is only 2000psi.MaxP;
Because it's like telling a dedicated mountain climber to just drive to the top of Pike's Peak instead of climbing Everest.
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Except that the difference is only 2000psi.