Best shooting big bore revolver

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In your opinion which of the big bore revolvers shoots best? I have an itch for a revolver that makes a big bang, something along the lines of .460 S&W, .480 Ruger, 500 S&W, ,454 Casull, etc. I really like the idea of the .460 as it would be easier to find reloading components for and it shoots its smaller predecessors the 45 and 454, but I've heard mixed reviews about the XVR. I would like to hear what you guys have to say about big bore revolvers ya'll have shot/owned.
 
BFRs are really hard to beat out of the box, particularly for the price. Not as pretty as an FA, but solid and every one I have shot has been extremely accurate. Here is a photo of the first one I had in .500 JRH. It was ridiculously accurate.

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My new .454 and .480 Super Blackhawks are both extremely accurate as well. The .480 version is more pleasant to shoot than the .454 when stoked with full-tilt .454 loads (I shoot more heavy .45 Colt through it than anything else).
 
Not the usual but it is a .45

S&W 625 5" Bbl. w/Guy Hogue checkered/finger grooves Rosewood grips
chambered in .45 ACP / .45 Auto Rim

There's the .45 ACP +P and I have some 'hotter' loads from Buffalo Bore
for .45 AR. I've never run .45 Super thru it but others report it's use in
the 625 or 25-2.

It's a hoot to shoot and soaks up the recoil ( 45 oz empty )

YBigBoreMV

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Depends on what you mean by "shoots best".

Shoots accurately. Is manageable. Is enjoyable to shoot. Also, I would like something that will be reliably accurate to 75-100 yds from a rest, as I would like to try hunting with whatever I decide on.

I know some people have a different definition of enjoyable and manageable. I dont intend for a .460 VXR to have the recoil of a .22 LR. I know what the expect when shooting the bigger guns, but some are just nasty and are miserable to shoot more than a few shots.
 
BFRs are really hard to beat out of the box, particularly for the price. Not as pretty as an FA, but solid and every one I have shot has been extremely accurate. Here is a photo of the first one I had in .500 JRH. It was ridiculously accurate.

Those are made by Magnum Research arent they? The people that make the desert eagle?

Sorry guys, I'm still fairly green with revolvers. I've shot them at different times throughout my life, but I've just become interested in owning a few of my own recently.
 
The big Smith and Wesson X frames really handle the recoil well. The auditory and visual blast are the worst things about those guns. I didn't find the actual felt recoil too bad.
My 4" 500 mag was easier to shoot than a 4" 29-2 (44 magnum Smith and Wesson) with magna grips using full tilt boogie ammo in both guns. A friend of mine who routinely shoots his 8" 460 XVR refused to put a second round through my 4" 29.

His 460 with 454 loads in it is a real sweet shooter. I think my ideal "big bore" would be a 5-6" 460 stoked with 454's I think.

I like Blackhawks, but hear the 454's can be a bit brutal out of that sized gun. The 480 would be a bit more comfortable, but unless your casting your own there's much more boolit options in a 45 calibre.

I have no experience with the BFR's, but hear good things. I'm considering a Thompson single shot, but I'm more interested in something flat shooting, not necessarily a big bore.
 
this!
A Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Brass.
I knew I had a flyer the second I heard the bang - My fault, not the gun or ammo.
Target was about 15 yds away.

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Shoots accurately. Is manageable. Is enjoyable to shoot. Also, I would like something that will be reliably accurate to 75-100 yds from a rest, as I would like to try hunting with whatever I decide on.

I know some people have a different definition of enjoyable and manageable. I dont intend for a .460 VXR to have the recoil of a .22 LR. I know what the expect when shooting the bigger guns, but some are just nasty and are miserable to shoot more than a few shots.

This is a very broad question. I can share what my experience has been but it is limited.

Accuracy will be good in any quality revolver with a decent sight radius if you have the skill to shoot it accurately. X-Frame, SRH, Colt Anaconda, BFR, and possibly some other that some folks would include. This is my list though, so.....

I've shot a 44 mag SRH before, and it was fun. Nothing heart stopping, but a good thumper of a gun, and the 44 mag is a very well proven cartridge. With good shot placement it will kill any animal in North America.

I have owned and regularly shot a 460V for like 6.5 years I think. It's one of the more economical choices given the range of ammo it can shoot. Some folks have commented that they are not real accurate with 45 Colt ammo because of the long cylinder jump to engage rifling. I've found it accurate enough at 40 yards to hit two litter bottles with, or to slap steel, but I don't think I'd use 45 colt ammo to hunt with.

454 Casulls are a hand full in this particular X frame, but pretty accurate, and certainly manageable if you know how to grip the gun properly, it has a grip that fits you properly, and you let your arms and upper body absorb the recoil. I think a lot of folks lock up their elbows and wrists in anticipation of the recoil and enhance the shock to their extremities. Don't do that. A firm grip, and tension in your arms is all you need, and let the gun role up into the air. Don't try and fight it or you'll have no fun at all.

200 gr Hornady 460 magnums are not bad to shoot at all. The concussion is huge from a 5 inch gun, but only produces perhaps 15-20% more recoil. Lots of flash and bang due to the shorter barrel. I've found that 300 gr 454's sting a bit more than the lighter 460 load.


Personally I like a 5 or 5.5" barrel as it balances really well for me. I only shoot iron sights with hand guns so going for a longer barrel isn't going to gain me that much unless I scope it, because my eyes aren't really sharp enough to accurately aim out past 125 yards max anyway. Just my personal interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVB2lfuh7Q
While some of the commentary in this video is obviously just some guys joking around, it does give you an idea of the recoil differences.

If you want to actually utilize the full potential of the 460 mag, and shoot longer distance, a longer barrel would likely serve you well.

I really enjoy mine, but as I said in a thread earlier this week, if I was going to do it again, and hunting big game at moderate distances and/or dangerous critter defense was a concern, I'd probably get a 480 Ruger or 500 magnum.

I have not however shot either of those.

The real benefit to the 460XVR is range. So if you want to knock over deer and elk sized game, it'd do just fine.
 
I have SA & DA 44's & 45's and they are all accurate out to about 50 yards or more. My FA 454 is the most accurate and it has taken large game out to 100 yards. My eye sight is not what it once was so the FA now has a scope. All my big bore guns are more accurate than I am but I like the FA best for hunting. For general carry around the farm and in the woods I carry a 3" 629 and it too is more capable than I am. Around here we have black bears but I do not consider them dangerous but the Coyotes could be a problem for my dogs so the 44 is more than adequate plus it is great for harvesting a deer for the freezer.
 
Here's the same BFR with an Ultradot 30 up top (red dot, no magnification) and a five-shot group at 50 yards.

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Super Redhawks are great revolvers as well. I shot this group at 100 yards with a .454 SRH stoked with Federal 300 grain Swift A-frames. On top is an Ultradot 30 red dot. SRHs handle recoil very well.

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The 460 X-Frame is more pleasant to shoot than some 44 magnums I have shot. The extra weight and muzzle brake make a difference. They also are accurate. This is from 100 yards:

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The deal breaker for me with the X-frame is the size. This is a photo of my .500 Smith (top) and my Model 29. It's nearly a crew-served weapon. I sent it down the road. It was accurate, but it didn't do anything more than any of my other .500s from a terminal standpoint. Not knocking anyone's choices, but for me I want something more svelte.

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My Super Blackhawk in .454 is also a great shooter. This five shot group was shot at 50 yards. The new SBHs offer a lot of terminal performance in a 3-lb package. They're definitely worth looking at IMHO.

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The deal breaker for me with the X-frame is the size. This is a photo of my .500 Smith (top) and my Model 29. It's nearly a crew-served weapon. I sent it down the road. It was accurate, but it didn't do anything more than any of my other .500s from a terminal standpoint. Not knocking anyone's choices, but for me I want something more svelte.

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Yeah, I never have been on board with the full length barreled X frames. I realize I'm giving up velocity by doing so, which begs the question, is a different gun a better option?

The 6.5" 500 magnum with the 3/4ths lug has always been the one I liked.
 
If you haven't reached the 41-44 mag level, I would suggest you start there. One of my most accurate big bores is a 8 3/8" S&W M57. I have it in other barrel lenghts, but without a doubt, it is the most accurate for me.

If you go big bore, I would suggest about a 6" barrel length. (Unless it only comes in a longer barrel.)

I do real well with 480 Ruger from a 6.5" BFR revolver. You can shoot 475 Linebaugh's in it, but generally speaking the 480 Ruger is enough for me. It is more pleasant to shoot than my Ruger Super Redhawk in 480.

I often think if I had it to do over again..... 44 mag, peppy 45 Colt, 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh, 460 S&W, 500 S&W and so forth.... I'd still be a 41 mag and 480 Ruger shooter. I feel fortunate that I started with a 41 mag rather than trying 44 mag and going to 41 mag. I did the opposite. Discovered that I don't need a 44 mag.
 
My most accurate hand gun was a .41 mag raging bull taurus. I say was because it quit after 2 0r 3 years of heavy shooting. Hiting steel @ 150 yds most times.
 
My Super Blackhawk in .454 is also a great shooter. This five shot group was shot at 50 yards. The new SBHs offer a lot of terminal performance in a 3-lb package. They're definitely worth looking at IMHO.

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Been looking for one of those since they came out but to no avail, I may have to order one.
 
I am a fan of the Ruger Super Redhawks as well.

A 7.5 inch Super Redhawk in .44 with 240 XTP handloads at 1425 fps gave me 3.5 inch 6 shot groups at 100 yards with open sights, and a 7.5 inch Super Redhawk in .454 Casull with 300 Grain XTP handloads at 1520 fps gave me 6 shot 2 inch groups at 100 yards with a 2-7 Burris scope.

Nice guns.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
I can only speak to .45 caliber but my personal max comfort level is with a 328 grain bullet with around 1300 fps out of a .45 Colt case, but Overall Length adjusted to limit its use to a .464 Casull gun. Here's why:

Barrel twist rate design is dependent on max velocity to be fired through it, to keep the spin RPM to desired speeds. We're talking up to hundreds of thousand RPMs.

Take the Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt, and a twist of 1 in 16". This is done since most normal pressure .45 Colt loads are subsonic (In dry air at 68°F / 20 °C, the speed of sound is 343.2 meters per second (1,126 f.p.s.).

Jump to the .454 Casull and the twist is only 1 in 24", since it is expected for .454 Ca loads to be supersonic.

One way to look at that is a slow bullet fired from a fast gun will lead to lower than optimum spin, which in turn leads to less stability in flight.

Too much spin RPM on the other hand can lead to limitations on bullet designs at a given speed. For example softer lead bullets have a tendency to become less stable than a hard-cast or heavily jacketed XTP-Magnum bullet. Even normal .452 XTP jacketed bullets and hard-cast lead have a design speed limit of 1600 f.p.s. while the thicker jacket on the XTP-MAG can go to 2100 f.p.s. safely.

The 460XVR addresses the hyper spin rate issue by having a graduated twist rate though the length of the barrel. It starts out at essentially no twit and changes along the length to 1 in 20". Excessive muzzle rise is addressed by a removable compensator at the end of the barrel.

Now me personally I don't like ported barrels, as any failure of the bullet to leave the barrel clean will set the weapon up for an obstruction on the next fired round, which is likely to cause an exploded barrel.

That said, felt recoil is partially determined by the weight of the gun, so it makes sense that a heavier gun is easier to control with a really stout load.



Sometime back I started a short article on "Bullet Speed Limits". If there is any interest I'll finish it and publish it here.
 
Yes I too have decided after much testing on the Super Redhawk, the bobbed version with 5" barrel, model 5517 as my "working gun". The longer barreled version is a bit too heavy and not needed for my "work" (let's call that work- "large dangerous animal defense").

Now for hobby yes, the long barrel would be fun, including hunting capable, but rigth now I really lust for the Super Blackhawk Bisley .454 Casull 5 shot, to develop the next level loads in.

By the way, I personally really like the Bisley grips for heavy recoil loads. To my hands it reduces flip and redirects the thump to a lower, more meaty portion of my hand.
 
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