Big Surprise- Perp's family accuse racism

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Yawn ...

In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning, just as it did yesterday and as it is widely believed will occur tomorrow.
 
If the 80's were the "me" generation, surely the nineties and the double oughts will be remembered as the "not me" generation.

Nope, not my fault. It was, uh... Racism! Violent video games! Loud music! Illegal immigrants! Republicans! That's the ticket. Everyone's fault but mine!
 
even better

You can't make this stuff up:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/19/AR2006031901077_pf.html

Victim's Kin Denounce Shooting by Md. Deputy

By Christian Davenport
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 20, 2006; B01



A 22-year-old Oxon Hill man fatally shot by a Charles County sheriff's deputy Saturday morning had drawn a handgun and fired it while three deputies were trying to arrest him on a drunken driving charge, the sheriff's office said yesterday.

Friends and relatives of the suspect, Jonathon Lyles, offered a starkly different view. They questioned whether Lyles had a gun and said officers targeted him because he was a young African American man who had had previous run-ins with police.

Sharonda Lyles, 28, of La Plata said her brother would not pull a gun on an officer. "I don't know why the police sought out to kill my brother," she said.

The sheriff's office said Lyles was shot about 7:30 a.m. after Officer James Thompson spotted his car, which had backed over a curb and nearly hit an apartment building in the 600 block of Zekiah Run Road in La Plata.

Authorities said Lyles was slumped over the steering wheel of the vehicle, which was still running, and Thompson called for backup. When two other officers arrived, they interviewed Lyles and gave him field sobriety tests, which Lyles failed, officials said.

As the deputies tried to arrest him and place him in handcuffs, Lyles fought back, drew a semiautomatic handgun and fired a shot that missed the officers, officials said.

They said Officer Clint Walter, a four-year member of the sheriff's office, fired back, hitting Lyles in the chest with a single shot. Lyles was taken to Prince George's Hospital Center, where he was pronounced dead.

Sheriff's officials said they recovered the handgun Lyles had fired, and they denied that race played a part in the shooting.

"The man had a gun. He fired on a police officer, and the police officer returned fire," Capt. Joe Montminy said. Race "has nothing to do with it. . . . [The officers] were struggling for their lives."

The officer who initially spotted Lyles's car, Thompson, is African American, said Kristen Timko, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office. Walter and Officer Jonathan Rager, who responded to assist in the arrest, are white, she said.

All three have been placed on routine administrative leave pending an investigation.

John Bowlin, 22, of Largo, who is Lyles's half-brother, said the authorities' version of events does not make sense. He wondered why the deputies did not immediately check whether Lyles had a gun, before the sobriety tests.

Timko said suspects may or may not be patted down for weapons, depending on the circumstances.

Lyles's friends and family members gathered yesterday at the scene of the shooting, where a shrine of candles and flowers had been created.

Sharonda Lyles said her brother had served time in prison for drug offenses and violating parole and had been pursuing a career in music since his release in November.

"He was trying to get his life together, and they kill him," said friend Michael Jones, 24, of La Plata.


Lyles worked at a mall music store selling CDs and T-shirts and was working on a rap album, his sister said. She said he was tall and plain-spoken. "He would do anything for you," she said. "He was all that. He was my little brother."

She and several of Lyles's friends, who had gone to the scene Saturday morning after word of the shooting spread, said Lyles was left lying on his back for about an hour without medical care before an ambulance came.

Timko disputed that, saying the officers immediately called for an ambulance, which arrived 3 1/2 minutes later. Once the paramedics assessed the situation, they called for a helicopter, which arrived at a nearby fire station at 7:59 a.m., about 30 minutes after the shooting, Timko said.

Staff researcher Don Pohlman contributed to this report.

I feel bad for this guy's friends and family and all, but sometimes all you can do as an observer is -->:rolleyes:
 
to bad/or a good thing

that making stupid statments in a time of grief is not a crime.
if it were alot of the family members of these jokers would be setting in prision also.:banghead:
 
Hey may have been a "Trying to get his life together" and could have been a decent guy most of the time, but the police have no way of knowing that when he is waving a gun at them. If the nicest guy in the world gets drunk and shoots at a cop then he fully deserves what he is going to get. IMHO, alcohol can make idiots out of the best of us, control you drinking and when you are drunk, don't drive and don't play with guns.


The more you know....:neener:
 
if you shoot at police, they will shoot back.

he may have been the nicest guy in the world. but when severely drunk, your judgement is severely impaired.

all the more reason that guns and booze don't mix.

if he hadn't been carrying, he'd still be alive.
 
The outcome was totally dicated by his actions. If he hadn't pulled the gun, he would still be alive. Why is that so hard for some people to believe?
 
Sounds like he committed suicide...

I wonder if any lightbar camera was activated? It would help close the case with the family.
 
I really wish cops would quit MAKING minority innercity repeat criminal low lifes pull guns on them just so they can shoot them. :barf: :barf: :barf:


I am so damn tired of this race baiting race card bull sh*t. People choose to do the things they do. Yes the environment plays a role but it doesn't relieve a person of their autonomy. Their are plenty of poor unfortunate inner city minorities that do not engage in criminal activity. These people should be praised for the way they have risen above their environments. Intead they are called "sellouts", Uncle Toms" and worse by their own. The simple fact is that many minorities are hypocites. They make excuses to justify criminal actions, bash their own members that do succeed in life, blame others for their own circumstances, demand handouts from others and continue to follow the people that do keep then in their current state. All this race card crap does is continue to perpetuate this cycle of hypocricy.
 
Trying to get his life together ... then why was this ex-con carrying a handgun in Maryland?

Of course, friends and family would claim that the gun was planted by the cops to make it look like a righteous shoot.
 
The race card is played more often than the ace of trumps in a bridge game- getting pretty tiresome, but then it's typical of the prevailing attitude that's developed in this country of taking no personal responsibility- everyone is perfect so it's gotta be someone else's fault- spare me!
 
Even the dash..

camera in a police car would not alter the reality of this guy's relatives. Even if they were able to see on tape that he pulled a gun and fired, their response would have been: "But he didn't hit anyone. If he was so drunk the police were arresting him for DUI then all the cops had to do was hide behind their cars and wait for him to run out of bullets. They didn't have to shoot him."

migoi
 
Just wait until they pull the "couldn't they have used non-lethal force" argument out of their arses. "If he was a rich drunk white kid they would have shot bean bags or tear gas at him." :banghead: :cuss: :banghead:
 
Sharonda Lyles, 28, of La Plata said her brother would not pull a gun on an officer. "I don't know why the police sought out to kill my brother," she said.
Hmmm.......maybe he just "needed killin."

Sharonda Lyles said her brother had served time in prison for drug offenses and violating parole
And then he gets drunk and pulls a piece on a bunch of cops. The world is a better place without this brain trust.
 
I think we should disarm our police as the British have done. This would keep the cops from killing innocent, upstanding citizens like the young gentleman with so much potential in this story. :barf:
 
Unfortunately this mindset is endemic to many residents of Prince George's County. In the past, there were sad instances of institutional racism from the police department and the current residents have discovered that if they now cry racism it excuses anything. Too bad that the most prosperous majority black county in the US can not rise upon its ugly past.

I've been told that I'm a racist because our marching band actually marched instead of dancing and playing poorly. I've been told that I'm racist because there aren't enough black kids on our rock band concert (100% of those that auditioned made it, BTW). I've been called a racist because I tend to use rock and roll tunes as examples for my audio class :rolleyes:

We also get little printouts of our grades each quarter that are broken down by sex, race and then by each grade received. If we have more than 25% Ds or Es from either females or blacks they highlight it and then say, "No one is looking at this data, it's only for your information." Yeah, right....:scrutiny:
 
Is it me or does EVERY innercity black man in his early 20's seem to be working on a rap album? I guess his teenage bid to be an NBA player fizzeled out so rap was plan B. :rolleyes:

CNN should conduct a poll or something.
 
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