Biker gang allegedly robs Delray motorcyclist

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I suspect the attacked biker mouthed off to someone inside the bar and was leaving.
The guy with the hurt feelings with a few beers in him got his buddies together to confront him. Stealing his vest was like shoving your heal in a broked arm.

Knowing the post and its antigun view and its taste for sensationalism, the article title was funny to me.

We have plenty of deadly drug gangs in Palm Beach County, but biker gangs? Thats funny.
 
This IS America. One should be able to wear what one wants, when one wants, where one wants. The "rules" apply to everyone, and just because some poser wants to wear biker "colors" and ride a hog when he goes out to lunch, doesn't mean he deserves a beating.

True. But it's kinda like walking into a lion's den with a raw steak strapped to your arse.

Stupidity should be painful.
 
Here's all about motorcycle clubs and their rules, attitudes and ethics. If you are a rider and ride anywhere there are M/Cs, you'll know this is serious business. It may also explain the reason to you about stripping the vest and "colors" from the rider.

What is a Motorcycle Club?

The intent of this section is to give you an overview of the structure and philosophy of the traditional motorcycle club (M/C). In some cases, this does not necessarily describe the **** M/C as all motorcycle clubs differ on some points.

If your lifestyle is influenced by motorcycles, you are part of the motorcycle community. Of all the types of organizations found within that community, the motorcycle club stands apart and ranks highest in stature. A serious M/C commands respect for one or both of two reasons:

Those who are informed recognize the deep level of personal commitment and self-discipline that a man has to demonstrate and sustain in order to wear a patch, so much so that it is akin to being a full time profession for the individual. They realize that a Club's Colors are closely guarded and the membership process is long and difficult. All else put aside, you have to respect the man for what he has accomplished by being able to earn and keep the patch he wears.

Those who are less informed see only the surface of things. They see the vigilance of mutual support. The potential danger of invoking a response from a well-organized unit that travels in numbers and is always prepared for confrontation. They know that NO ONE CAN PROVOKE ONE CLUB MEMBER WITHOUT HAVING TO ANSWER TO THE ENTIRE CLUB, and that such an answer is a point of honor that must come to the last man. The type of respect that this generates is one that is born out of fear.

The serious motorcycle club will conduct itself publicly in a highly professional manner. They will not go out of their way to cause trouble or to present themselves as an intimidating force without purpose or provocation. Their respect is gained from both of the items cited above.

There are many lesser clubs whose membership is made up of equally lesser individuals. These clubs, without a continual show of strength, would have no respect at all. The majority of these types of clubs are short lived; however, the general public does not draw a distinction between different club colors. If one club causes a problem that touches the public sector, the offending club's identity is either confused or ignored, and heat comes down to suppress all clubs. As a result of this, within a given community, motorcycle clubs will tend to police themselves.

There is also a natural hierarchy that is recognized between motorcycle clubs themselves. The strongest and most established club will assume charge of the particular state in which they ride. This dominant club will, for reasons that are beneficial to all, authorize the establishment of new clubs within the state; will disband clubs that cause continual problems; will act as mediators to resolve problems between existing clubs; will step in and enforce their own solution if the feuding clubs cannot come to terms on their own; will provide communications links and coordinate intra club events; will call on the clubs within a state for additional support, if needed, when dealing with a threatening external force. It is also not uncommon for the major club of an area to select some of their prospects from the best of the ranks of the other clubs. In fact some clubs have been established with this sole purpose in mind.

If it were not for the major club of a state taking this leadership position, clubs would not enjoy the luxury of putting their time and resources to the benefit of their individual brotherhood, nor would we enjoy the mobility and freedom of movement that comes with peace and order.

Within the motorcycle club itself, officers are elected to the traditional posts of President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, Sergeant at Arms, etc. In addition, you will find the less traditional posts of Road Captain, Enforcer, and War Lord. The Road Captain is responsible for the logistics of effectively moving the club from point A to point B. The Enforcer answers only to the President and sees that the President's orders are carried out. He will also be the one who travels if a problem has to be addressed at a distance. The War Lord is in charge of tactics and strategies in times of stress. In some instances, he is also responsible for the club's security issues. In most clubs, the positions of War Lord and Enforcer are combined and may carry the name of either.

In most cases, the patch holder was a "hang around" for the club for at least a year. Before that, he was a long standing acquaintance and his attitude and overall conduct was well known. He then prospected for the club from one to two years before he was awarded his patch.

Of all the things in this man's life, his loyalty and commitment to the well being of his club comes first, above family, friends, job, personal possessions, and personal safety. There is NEVER, REPEAT NEVER, any doubt or time spent on even considering which comes first. The only thing that approaches his commitment to the club is his commitment to his brothers. But even here, the interest of the club always comes before that of the individual. He knows that his family can walk out on him without a second's notice; he can lose his job overnight, even for good; close friends come and go with time. But his club and his brothers will always be there for him. It is one of the few, if not the only thing, that can be counted on. He knows this because he himself is committed to always being there for them.

To be certain that this ethic and standard of attitude is carried by new members, he participates in conditioning, educating, and at times testing the club's prospects. The term prospect comes from "prospective member." As such, before he allows another man to wear his colors, as a symbol of their mutual commitment, he will feel certain that the new member brings with him the same loyalty and dedication that he himself displays.

He has the attitude that there are two types of people in the world: his brothers, and those who are a potential threat to the cub. For this reason he will not discuss club related business, membership numbers, the club's movements, or personal information about his brothers with anyone outside the club. Anything that could possibly be used by anyone to piece together an informative picture of the club is a very serious security issue.

Wearing a patch is more than getting together for good times. It is also getting together in bad times. It constitutes a lot of work. It is committing yourself to a lifestyle in which you do not look for how your brothers might help you, but ways in which you can be of help to your brothers. You always look to give, but never expect to receive.

Now all of this may sound very idealistic to you, and in some cases it is just that. But, it is an ideal that all clubs profess and are always striving to achieve in principle and practice.

In closing, you should be aware of a "golden rule" of conduct that you should bear in mind while traveling in club circles:

"If you give respect, you will get respect.

If you act like an *******, you will be treated like an *******."
 
The last two lines of the Crimp's post are particularly significant.

Biker
 
It's interesting how the criminal activity of a biker gang is defended with a "you just don't understand the lifestyle" stance... whereas if this were MS-13 or some other such criminal gang, there'd be fists-a-shakin' in outrage.
 
Ah, we're on the same page. That calls for a big shot of Bailey's in my java.

Biker:)
 
Trip20

"It's interesting how the criminal activity of a biker gang is defended with a "you just don't understand the lifestyle" stance... whereas if this were MS-13 or some other such criminal gang, there'd be fists-a-shakin' in outrage"

A lot of civillians do not understand the true meaning of "Brotherhood". To be part of, partake in club live is something special that you will never understand. Hang arroung for two years , prospect for an other, and if you are lucky you will make it. I am a vet and ride with a vetrans club. We are not a Hog Chapter, we are not a gang. If you pose to be something you are not and are disrespectful, be very careful. The first amendment grants Us the right to wear our colors. I earned mine! And to compare me to MS-13...This is the High Road...
 
This is collision of world-views - you have one, the other guy has another. You see it as juvenile or infringing on your freedom of speech, the other guy sees it as deliberate disrespect.

I was met a woman one evening in a club and I found out a bit late that she was a feminist and extremely outspoken. She started haranguing a guy at the bar who had somehow offended her. I knew the guy a little bit, and also knew that in his world, men who cannot "control" their women are therefore not Alpha males and are easy prey.

I had to promptly drag her butt out of there before she got us both killed (nodded to the guy in acknowledgement that I understood his situation whereupon he nodded and settled back in his seat) and I guess to this day she thinks of me as "that rude SOB who was too chicken to kick a guy's a$$ at the bar - hmph!".

Try and see it from the other guy's perspective sometime, and understand that people who refuse to acknowledge or even be aware of other people's views can end up as road-kill ;)
 
This has wandered a long way from gun-related. I think it needs to be taken over to APS.

Closed.

pax
 
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