Jake
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May or may not be off topic so please read before locking.
Having seen at least two threads, dealing with the near riots at some locations due to Black Friday, get locked, I actually got to thinking that there maybe a not off topic side to this situation.
Lets say that you decide to partake of the insanity known as "Black Friday". You get up bright and early, either by yourself or maybe with your signifigent other and wander on down to Wally World or some other location at o' dark thirty to get that great deal. The doors open and the race is on. It the mass, heard-like feeding frenzy that follows you or your partner is knocked down and begins to be trampled. Or some nit-wit decides that getting the "Tickle Me Elmo" you have in your cart for himself is a good reason to attempt to kick your a$$.
What would you consider a justified response? And more importantly what do you think the police would consider a justified response?
Obviously in the second case give them the stupid toy. I love my kids and all, but I don't feel getting them a Christmas present is worth a fight. But then again what if the other person comes out swinging with out any lead-in or provocation? That seems to be a clear cut case of self defense.
It's the first scenario that was more the point of this thread. I mean think about it. If your standing there watching strangers run all over your wife, who's lying on the ground, what do you do? Wade into the pack like Bruce Lee swinging at anything that moves? Start hosing the crowd with pepper spray if you have it on you (Which may well make the situation worse)? Pull your CCW and pop a few into the ceiling (Not that I think that would help improve the situation much either)?
What do you feel would be justified? And what about the repercussions after the smoke clears?
Having seen at least two threads, dealing with the near riots at some locations due to Black Friday, get locked, I actually got to thinking that there maybe a not off topic side to this situation.
Lets say that you decide to partake of the insanity known as "Black Friday". You get up bright and early, either by yourself or maybe with your signifigent other and wander on down to Wally World or some other location at o' dark thirty to get that great deal. The doors open and the race is on. It the mass, heard-like feeding frenzy that follows you or your partner is knocked down and begins to be trampled. Or some nit-wit decides that getting the "Tickle Me Elmo" you have in your cart for himself is a good reason to attempt to kick your a$$.
What would you consider a justified response? And more importantly what do you think the police would consider a justified response?
Obviously in the second case give them the stupid toy. I love my kids and all, but I don't feel getting them a Christmas present is worth a fight. But then again what if the other person comes out swinging with out any lead-in or provocation? That seems to be a clear cut case of self defense.
It's the first scenario that was more the point of this thread. I mean think about it. If your standing there watching strangers run all over your wife, who's lying on the ground, what do you do? Wade into the pack like Bruce Lee swinging at anything that moves? Start hosing the crowd with pepper spray if you have it on you (Which may well make the situation worse)? Pull your CCW and pop a few into the ceiling (Not that I think that would help improve the situation much either)?
What do you feel would be justified? And what about the repercussions after the smoke clears?
