Bloody Colt
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You should post pics.
Gun Master
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Congrats ! You can work it out the way you want.
Mechanically very tight with no hammer or trigger damage and the barrel is bright and shiny no rust . I tore it apart and cleaned the crud out . I was thinking the suicide story was an embellishment....then I took the grip frame apart and cleaned blood out of the screw holes. The cylinder finish damage is pretty extensive though. All match #'s. In all not a bad deal. The peening on the cylinder wasnt that bad or at least not as bad as I thought once I got it cleaned up. It was filthy. Its a solid gun with honest wear from use and holster use. Normally I don't like to refinish guns but this is the best candidate for it Ive seen.
Gordon
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looks good as is, a user the ultimate pleasure
Brian Williams
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That is a mighty fine piece.
CraigC
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I would've snagged it too!
Peakbagger46
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Yuck.
Now Now. For a second gen colt thats a good price. I look at it a few different way. For one thing theres nothing wrong with honest finish wear on a working gun. Peope pay big money for 1st gen guns that look like they got dragged behind a truck. This isnt a first gen but it is solid enough to make it a good shooter and it leaves itself open to refinishing if desired without destroying its value simply because the initial cost was s low. Time the bolt perfectly ( its off now. See the dimples leading to the anticipation grooves ) and replace the cylinder to make it really pretty or just swap in a 45 cylinder and barrel and send it out for a nickel job and it'll be a mighty fine gun for well under $2k that still shoots as good as it does now .
CraigC
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Ignorance is bliss!
200Apples
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Notwithstanding the story, that is one magnificent gun. I congratulate you on your acquisition! ...and I'd leave it be for now, care for it and shoot it from time to time. Thanks for the pictures.
Notwithstanding the story, that is one magnificent gun. I congratulate you on your acquisition! ...and I'd leave it be for now, care for it and shoot it from time to time. Thanks for the pictures.
Armybrat
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Not a bad buy at all for a good shooter. I'da done it.
Arkansas Paul
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I wouldn't do it. Gunbroker has LNIB Smith 25s for around $1k. Does the fact that it is a first year production add very much value?
If anything it takes away value. S&W dropped the ball for a long time on the Model 25's and made the throats way too large. Beautiful guns in a caliber I have a lot of but Id rather have this one. My other Colts are safe queens and I should resist the urge to make this into a pretty gun. Right now its an authentic working cowboy gun from a cowboy town .Why Id want ti screw that up I don't know but I cant help myself ...OCD sort of thing.
Peakbagger46
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Yuck explained
That IS an awesome piece.
About six years ago I took a report of a "suspicious" cowboy holster found by ranch hands next to a wash. A quick sniff test of the cowhide refreshed my memory of a call several months before with a missing and suicidal "cowboy". Some smells stick to the olfactory memory more than they should.
He had children and a good woman who was worried sick.
Found the gun and coyote chewed and scattered remains the same day.
I couldn't own a piece like that, but that may mean you are the better man. Have you shot it yet?
That IS an awesome piece.
About six years ago I took a report of a "suspicious" cowboy holster found by ranch hands next to a wash. A quick sniff test of the cowhide refreshed my memory of a call several months before with a missing and suicidal "cowboy". Some smells stick to the olfactory memory more than they should.
He had children and a good woman who was worried sick.
Found the gun and coyote chewed and scattered remains the same day.
I couldn't own a piece like that, but that may mean you are the better man. Have you shot it yet?
Peakbagger46
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Upon looking at your pictures again, likely BS on the suicide story! Even wear on both sides, and no rust. Blood is nasty to carbon steel, and the gun usually is found a good bit away from brain matter due to convulsions and recoil.
Take that with a grain of salt, I'm not a forensic expert.
Take that with a grain of salt, I'm not a forensic expert.
If I hadnt cleaned blood out of the screw holes and grip frame I'd agree. Its pretty evident that it lay on its side in "something" . The pics don't really do the bluing damage ( not wear ) justice. Luckily the steel isnt corroded but the bluing definitely has some sort of abnormal non wear related damage to one side. If I hadnt cleaned blood out of screw holes I'd say it was left in a leather holster on its side for a LONG time which may be the case and the leather damaged the bluing.
In any case its an inanimate object and guns don't kill people , people do blah, blah , blah.
There is no pitting on this gun so I consider it a good deal by several hundred dollars. Real easy and relatively cheap to turn it into one of these ( Nickel and rams horn grips ) ...Just saying...It would be a great match for my USFA that just went up to get nickeled and ivory grips and my old Alfonsos of hollywood holster set. Some organization would be sure to give me a pimp award..
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In any case its an inanimate object and guns don't kill people , people do blah, blah , blah.
There is no pitting on this gun so I consider it a good deal by several hundred dollars. Real easy and relatively cheap to turn it into one of these ( Nickel and rams horn grips ) ...Just saying...It would be a great match for my USFA that just went up to get nickeled and ivory grips and my old Alfonsos of hollywood holster set. Some organization would be sure to give me a pimp award..
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Peakbagger46
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Ohh.. Yuck. Does it smell funny? Blood in the screws would be consistent with the story, obviously.
Just be glad no holster was included. If the previous owner was undiscovered for a few days, an aroma would still likely be present in the leather.
And that is truly pimptastic.
Just be glad no holster was included. If the previous owner was undiscovered for a few days, an aroma would still likely be present in the leather.
And that is truly pimptastic.
Arkansas Paul
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Yeah, little bit.
It's your gun friend, do whatever snaps your cap, but there's no way I'd nickle plate that baby. I'd shoot the snot out of it, especially since you already have a few pretty ones.
It's your gun friend, do whatever snaps your cap, but there's no way I'd nickle plate that baby. I'd shoot the snot out of it, especially since you already have a few pretty ones.
It more an issue of economics . I want a shooter that I dont have to baby and i want one that will match my USFA . Nickeling the gun is relatively cheap to do compared to case hardening the frame and bluing the balance . Turnbull get $1200-$1400 to do Case and bluing ( everyone else just sends them to turnbull because theyre lazy ) and a good nickel job is less than a third of that. Its a factory finish scheme that I think looks nice and since I'm the one that matters in this that is likely whats going to happen. I could just leave it as is but with the new cylinder, even after I correct the end shake issue it has with the old bushing in the new cylinder I still have to set the barrel back a thread, recut the rear of the barrel to get the right gap and recut the forcing cone. If I'm doing all that I'd rather convert it to .45 Colt since all my other pea shooters are in that caliber. Cylinder goes down to Bob James to cut the cylinder for 45's. Now it has a different barrel and cylinder and will need refinishing anyway. I'm back to the nickel vs C/B thing.
Nothings in stone yet and I'm thinking out loud but Giraffe Bone with Nickel is sounding good to me.
Nothings in stone yet and I'm thinking out loud but Giraffe Bone with Nickel is sounding good to me.
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