Bloomberg at it again

[Bubba613]

Doesn't this man have anything better to do, like impose a new tax or something?
http://news.yahoo.com/york-probe-finds-62-percent-private-gun-sellers-170833667.html

More than six in 10 private gun sellers agreed to sell a firearm to a buyer who said he probably couldn't pass a background check, according to a report released today by New York City officials as part of an undercover investigation.

"Our investigation indicates illegal online sales are a problem that's national in scope," said Mayor Michael Bloomberg at a press conference today.

More at the source.

 

[NOLAEMT]

nope...

The scary thing is that he truly believes what he is doing is the correct thing, and he is not alone.

 

[Shadow 7D]

Why has this jerkoff not been arrested?

 

[mortablunt]

Damnit! My private f2f cash transactions at gun shows aren't causing him to skip enough heartbeats! And what's this about the likely odds that I sell to prohibited persons? Criminals don't get their guns from shows, specially not in whatever longarm I've decided to sell off. Seen any scoped Mosin 91/30's with junk triggers being used in crimes recently?

 

[ErikO]

If Bloomberg tried to pull his crap here at a Missouri gun show, the state's AG would have him up on Felony counts.

 

[radio head]

Put an egotistical maniac in charge of a big city and this is what you get.

 

[parsimonious_instead]

This scares the heck out of me. I think forces are aligning against our right to buy and sell privately. I hope it doesn't happen, but if private sales are nationally banned, I think registration is the next step. And if not registration, some other wacky requirement, like having to carry around a bill of sale for every gun you're carrying concealed or taking to the range.

 

[Dave Workman]

Bubba, you beat me to it.
An NRA guy sent me this roundup of news:

Mayor Bloomberg Announces Results of National Investigation into Illegal
Online Gun Sales (24:52)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNelLgmFgU

NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Illegal Online Gun Sales Investigation (3:40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGE6qZwTjLI

Ohio Seller on ArmsList.com Sells Handgun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISKaTp--WQo

2. Mayor Bloomberg Announces Results Of First Ever National Investigation Into Illegal Online Gun Sales
Office of the Mayor of New York Ciry
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycg...11b/pr436-11.html&cc=unused1978&rc=1194&ndi=1
December 14, 2011
Byline: Michael Bloomberg, mayor

3. MAIG Announces Delete Online Outlaws Campaign to fight Illegal Online Gun Sales
Mayors Against Illegal Guns
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/14/4123010/mayors-against-illegal-guns-announces.html
December 14, 2011

4. NYC Probe of Web Gun Sales Finds 62% Would Break the Law
Bloomberg Businessweek
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...b-gun-sales-finds-62-would-break-the-law.html
December 14, 2011
Byline: Henry Goldman

5. In Latest Gun Inquiry, City Finds Willing Sellers Online
New York Times
City Room blog
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2...un-inquiry-city-finds-willing-sellers-online/
December 14, 2011
Byline: Joseph Goldstein

6. Illegal Gun Sales Run Rampant On Internet
Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/illegal-internet-gun-sales_n_1148497.html
December 14, 2011
Byline: Andrea Stone


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And here's my screed:

Bloomberg’s new ‘sting’ = same old agenda

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/bloomberg-s-new-sting-same-old-agenda

 

[230RN]

My Christmas wish is for Michael Bloomberg to hop in a time machine and travel to Russia during the Pogroms and then Germany as a citizen during the 1930s and 40s..

And if he makes it through that, come back to the US and preach no more.

Terry, 230RN

 

[DWFan]

From the article:
"The report offers several recommendations which Bloomberg reiterated at the press conference: that federal law should require a background check for every gun sale, not only sales by licensed sellers; that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) should improve enforcement of existing laws by conducting undercover investigations; and that websites should adopt stricter protocols to deter crime."

(1) Private citizens are prohibited from using the current background check system by federal law.
(2) In light of the current ATF fiasco of performing illegal purchases of weapons in order to route them directly to the drug cartels, having them "improve enforcement" is like putting a second fox in charge of guarding the hen house.
(3) Participating in a straw or otherwise illegal purchase of a firearm is a federal felony even if the ATF does it. So why are Bloomberg and his "agents" immune?

 

[Twiki357]

"Roughly 82 percent of private sellers who advertised on Craigslist, which prohibits firearms listings, failed the test, agreeing to sell firearms to someone they knew to be a prohibited buyer."

I find that interesting since I have never found a gun listed on Craigslist. But, maybe that's just me (Or maybe I should have looked at the NYC listings).

 

[mortablunt]

^ Yeah, from what I hear, you can't so much as visit Craigslist without half a million felons trying to sell you fully automatic machine gun sniper rifle concealable handgun 50 caliber assault weapons. There's some incredible stupidity and blindness going on with their ideas and methods. Legal gun owners are not the people who introduce the guns to crime. Criminals get their guns through theft, straw purchase, and buying them from other criminals. Blaming legal gun owners for criminal gun use and then punishing them for it by trying to take away their rights is like trying to crack down on "massage parlors" by going after licensed therapists.

 

[The Sarge]

Bloomberg has zero credibility with the majority of citizens.
The struggle for our freedoms continues...........................

 

[evan price]

On our Ohio CCW site, we had an attempt by someone using Armslist try to buy a gun over the phone with obvious sketchy background including an admission that they could not legally buy it. The Bloomberg trolls are obvious, just follow the law and they can't get anything.

I wonder if he included his NYC cops that were running guns in that list?

 

[Dulvarian]

I really wonder why we can't get federal charges pressed on these people. We have them on video, with written transcripts, breaking federal laws. Did I miss something?

 

[Shadow 7D]

So here's an IDEA

Could you work with your local Police Department
and arrange for the 'straw purchase' to be completed
THEN have the dumb bleep arrested
at least you will cost boomy berg bail and court fees

Last time I heard extra jurisdictional actions were
ILLEGAL and a MAJOR source of irritation to the local PD that just got stepped on.

 

[hnk45acp]

because banning prostitution has done so much in preventing Craigslist sex trade. Maybe tomorrow he'll put out an investigation on how easy it i to get drugs online too.
Does illegal stuff happen on the internet? Yes
Will banning such activity stop it? No

 

[BaltimoreBoy]

Several thoughts.

1. Who, in their right mind, would believe anything the government says about things after charades like 'fast and furious' - especially the government of NYC?

2. The purpose of whining about the non-existent 'loophole' is to force every firearm transaction to go through a FFL. Goal: increase costs, and incidentally provide a national gun registration database de-facto. You won't even be able to leave them to your kids without letting uncle sugar know.

Never ask whether it makes sense - only ask what purpose is actually served.

 

[rozziboy18]

but if private sales are nationally banned, I think registration is the next step. And if not registration, some other wacky requirement, like having to carry around a bill of sale for every gun you're carrying concealed or taking to the range

shhhhhhhh! they might California might hear you! j/k of course

i just dont understand it! this group of people see the need to impress there personal hang ups on the mass majority by "uncovering" these these situation in witch help there case. rather than be a team player in life they would rather draw a line in the sand and separate us like sheep according to our beliefs, ideals, general train of thought. i guess some see power, and persecution as a means to get ahead in life and feel like they are right and tell us that we think they ar right too!

imho of course!

 

[Neverwinter]

Several thoughts.

1. Who, in their right mind, would believe anything the government says about things after charades like 'fast and furious' - especially the government of NYC?

This is a flawed perspective. Just because one aspect of the government is under suspicion for the actions of OF&F, doesn't make it reasonable to distrust all government.

Bloomberg may be an idiot and not to be trusted regarding guns, but that oversimplified misattributing perspective is incorrect.

 

[Ignition Override]

When a person first becomes a millionaire or billionaire, they then require much more power or must take physical risks, in order to experience a similar thrill, because they are de-sensitized with the money.

Politics can give them this new power and thrill.

Maybe Virgin's Richard Branson can interest Bloomberg in some risky balloon flights or trans-oceanic sailboat cruises etc? Some of these guys start to feel that they are almost immortal. This happened to an extent with Steve Fawcett until his CFIT (lost situational awareness in a plane and hit a mountain: MSA or MOCA).

 

[Bigdog57]

Mayor Bloomin'Idiot shoots off mouth - thousands injured.

This richer-than-God socialistic tool needs some serious prison time. The fact that he is still committing thsse Federal Gun Crimes is a sad statement on our nation's priorities.

 

[230RN]

This all leads me to ask "What personal acts has he done with respect to firearms that might actually be prosecutable?

Has anyone actually cataloged them?

Or is he immune due to him acting somehow in his official capacity?

I harken back to my long-standing position that officials of any capacity should be personally responsible for their official actions, and not be shielded by the "acting in their official capacity" armor.

Trouble is, of course, they'd never write laws which would remove that armor.

It would, after all, cripple government.

Terry, 230RN

 

[mgregg85]

I have to say that one video made me sick... I mean, $650 for a used Mini-14? That guy is nuts.

 

[Strykervet]

Mayor Bloomin'Idiot shoots off mouth - thousands injured.

This richer-than-God socialistic tool needs some serious prison time. The fact that he is still committing thsse Federal Gun Crimes is a sad statement on our nation's priorities.

Yeah, that guy is a tool. When you have more money that God and a private security detail plus the entire NYPD OF COURSE you want everyone else around you disarmed. NY is a place where only the rich are entitled to protection of self and property.

I certainly won't be going there, and a shame because I'd like to visit the museums. I don't go to California either, and I try hard not to assist in their local and state economies when I can help it. If reciprocity gets signed in and NY is forced to comply, I may go then. But I'm sure he'll fanagle a loophole to deny me my 2A rights were I to visit.