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Border agents ready to quit
Unions say many looking for new jobs

By Hernán Rozemberg
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 15, 2003


National security soon could be jeopardized because thousands of immigration agents, including members of the Border Patrol, would quit before facing new regulations stripping them of all employee rights, their union leaders warn.


The new Department of Homeland Security, which will officially begin doing business Jan. 24, assumes the duties of 22 federal agencies.

The merger includes the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which is scheduled to be split into two new branches, one for immigrant services and another for law enforcement, on March 1.

But no matter the new agency name or who's in charge, Border Patrol agents and immigration inspectors still will be needed as the nation's first line of protection, union leaders said. They said the already demoralized rank-and-file will not tolerate the loss of union protection, which many agents expect will happen under the new department.

But the government maintains that unions will be allowed to stay in place for one year, and employees will retain rights even if collective bargaining is taken away.

Agents and inspectors have long complained of being underpaid and say they are constantly confused by contradictory orders from federal leaders.


T.J. Bonner, a 25-year Border Patrol agent and president of the National Border Patrol Council, said government leaders haven't done much to assure agents that they're essential to the future security of the nation.

"People are very nervous and ready to get of town," Bonner said, noting that the council represents about 9,000 agents. "The administration doesn't seem to realize it's got a crisis in its hands."

Bonner said thousands of agents are applying or will apply for other jobs, primarily with local and state law enforcement agencies.

For example, he noted, all 79 agents attending a union meeting in San Diego last month said they were seeking other jobs.

Without unions the agents could be suspended or fired without a right to appeal, Bonner said.

He said he was not comforted after meeting last month with the future director of border security, Asa Hutchinson, who is now director of the Drug Enforcement Administration.

Charles Showalter, a vice president with the 16,000-member National Immigration and Naturalization Service Council, remains optimistic that the new department's leaders will want happy workers. But he agreed with Bonner that leaders' continued silence isn't helping.

"Inspectors have no idea of who they'll be working for and how they're going to be treated," Showalter said. "They're not going to work for someone who makes them more worried about office politics than about doing their jobs."

Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, said attention will be paid to union concerns even though a minority of the new agency's 190,000 workers will be union members - about 25 percent, mostly in INS and Customs, he said.

"We'll sit down and work this out together," Johndroe said. "The top thing they need to worry about is keeping terrorists out and not their job security."http://www.arizonarepublic.com/special03/articles/0115homeland-unions.html
 
Well seeing the bang up job they have been doing for the past several years, what is the down side?
 
Bruce H.
Well seeing the bang up job they have been doing for the past several years, what is the down side?
I'm a little surprised at this. It's not the BP agents that are slacking, it's the agency they work for and the government that's supposed to support them. If you have a border that requires 25000 agents to patrol it effectively, and you assign only 2000, what exactly do you expect? Granted the numbers here are not the actuals, but it illustrates the point.
 
National security soon could be jeopardized because thousands of immigration agents, including members of the Border Patrol, would quit before facing new regulations stripping them of all employee rights, their union leaders warn.
BS. Quit and kiss their federal pension goodbye? Nice try union dude, but I ain't that stupid.
 
Federal Pension? I don't think any newbies are allowed onto FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System) anymore. That stopped back in the '80s when I was thinking of IRS Special Agent. They're on social security :rolleyes: where their money's safe. :uhoh: With their experience, it would be easy for them to get hired by San Diego Sheriff or Police. As a rule, larger CA agencies pays its cops well and there's plenty of OT. Leave? Why not?
 
I have a close family friend that flew for the Border Patrol. The working conditions are HORRIBLE.

He left after 2yrs.
 
I can't blame any of them for quiting for any reason.
The job is tough and all you do is send the same illegals back day after day.
They get shot at and get screwed by the Govt at every turn.

Many of them use it as a step into other federal branches or leave for a local pd. We hire them all the time and the former BP agents work out very well.
 
I wouldn’t sweat this much at all. Comparatively speaking there aren’t that many BPAs that belong to their local union*. Even less consider the partial loss of some collective bargaining powers. I’d lay you good money that most Agents are far happier to see the enforcement side of the INS split from immigration side of things than they are upset that they don’t have all the same collective bargaining rights. Moreover the majority of the numbers these local union bosses are tossing out are inspectors and other INS types, not BPAs. Now, there are more than a few Agents that are looking at other jobs, but the reasons typically aren't because of anything to do with the new DOHS, or more specifically because of any worries about collective bargaining. In fact, I’d bet a lot of the reasons for poor morale will go away under the DOHS.


*Obviously local unions exist and Agents a part of them, but not many are all fired up about them, despite what the union admin tries to say.
 
In fact, I’d bet a lot of the reasons for poor morale will go away under the DOHS.
Let's hope so. What are the chances the Bush Administration will start paying attention to the border situation under the DOHS?
 
Let's hope so. What are the chances the Bush Administration will start paying attention to the border situation under the DOHS?
Well considering the plan to hire several thousand new Agents over the past year and several thousand more continuing into this one, I’d say fairly high. Whether it turns out to be enough or not we’ll have to just wait and see. I still say we (as a nation) are far better off giving the constitutional options a chance, even if it takes time, than to go for unconstitutional measures.
 
I have a buddy who's worked for the BP for five years.

Their union wasn't doing jack for them, so quite a few resigned from the union.

This sounds like union heads protecting their turf.
 
Any agency, especially a government agency tends to take on the qulaities of it's leadership. Political cronyism has ruined more than one agency. Untouchable middle and upper management don't want to rock any boats and they may be under pressure from elected ones. Look at The new rep from AZ. We are all to blame for this. We keep electing the same people over and over. There might be some good come out of this latest shakeup. Maybe get rid of do nothing fossels.
 
I’d lay you good money that most Agents are far happier to see the enforcement side of the INS split from immigration side of things than they are upset that they don’t have all the same collective bargaining rights.
Based on my conversations with a INS buddy of mine, I'd agree with you whole-heartedly. They've been itching to get away from the immigration side FOREVER and finally have bosses who have some clue about law enforcement.
 
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