Boresnake issue for .22

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1. I use bore snakes also, BUT I protect the muzzle by using a muzzle guide.

2. Do you wash the bore snake every time you use it, each time it is used the carbon from the bore is embedded in the bore snake.

3. With a cleaning rod the dirty patch is tossed in the trash and a new clean patch is used.

A "star" stamp on a Enfield barrel knox form means it is cord worn from cleaning. ;)

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As Popper said
Use some weed whacker string...

I use bore snakes for all but my .22s. For them, I take a length of weedwacker line - the orange color - and heat one end until I get a little bubble and then let it harden. Around that bubble I tie and secure a loop of 50 lb. test line that I can slip a patch through. I've been using the same one for several years.
 
you can do "same' as weed whacker with mono fishing line leader from places like Bass Pro, 1.0mm/100# test or even 1.4mm 200# test, pretty cheap 100 yard packs, cut to desired length and fashion a pull loop on end (or double line) for regular cleaning patches

I do that on 22s and hummers, just mind size of your patch
throw away when line gets too well used, 100 yards makes a bunch of pull lines

or.. use heavyweight "cheap" flyline, if want to carry a real compact coil in kit, can tie multiple patches in series, say three per pull, cut line long, trim off the dirty patches and tie on some more; doesn't push in from chamber quite as well, but not hard to do
(hard to find truly cheap flyline these days though)
have done that as a "get by" when lacking for a proper rod, flyline is real strong, but like mono, non-abrasive unless you get it filthy dirty

I do keep good rods on hand though, for the occasional more rigorous cleaning
 
Went to the Nations Gun SHow in NoVA and found two boresnakes labeled
.22, one with the fat black pull-cord, and the other noticably skinnier. Got the skinnier cord one and while still tight, I could actually use it. Now I'll return the other one to Walmart...
 
I have the exact same issue with my .22 boresnake. The black leader cord is too fat for my .22s win,rem,Ruger, and my AR. I hold the toe if my boot carefully on the leading weight and stretch just the leading cord out. This makes it temporarily slender enough to fall through the barrel.
Just my $0.02
 
While it is new for me to actually agree with Bigedp51 I quote him here:
"The problem with the pull through/bore snake is it causes cord wear at the muzzle when it rubs the bore. If you look at the photo above you will see the the British Sgt. holding the rifle at the correct angle and using the "proper" British method.

Bottom line, a bore snake collects dirt and it will act like sand paper and damage your muzzle and crown and hurt accuracy. Use a cleaning rod and bore guide unless you can protect the muzzle."

He is exactly correct. Boresnakes and pull-throughs will wear the muzzle oval over time. More .22 rimfire rifles are ruined by incorrect and overzealous cleaning than by shooting since non-corrosive ammo has been generally available. I coach a college-level smallbore rifle shooting team and we clean the bores about once a year. With .22 rimfire the bolt face, extractors and breechface need to be cleaned to prevent the accumulation of bullet-lube and grit but the bores are usually better left alone. Cleaning the bore on my Winchester 52 means 40+ shots to get the bore to begin shooting tight groups again.
 
I didn't say this, and I am not here...

More .22 rimfire rifles are ruined by incorrect and overzealous cleaning than by shooting
Zero maintenance is better than voodoo maintenance...

I coach a college-level smallbore rifle shooting team and we clean the bores about once a year.
A bit excessive if you ask me...

Cleaning the bore on my Winchester 52 means 40+ shots to get the bore to begin shooting tight groups again.
And, some people wonder why they can't get their guns to shoot/group respectably when they clean them every few rounds...

With .22 rimfire the bolt face, extractors and breechface need to be cleaned to prevent the accumulation of bullet-lube and grit but the bores are usually better left alone.
What he said above ^^^^^.

When was the last gunfight you were in that you were allowed to clean your gun? Your gun better work dirty, for your sake!

Kerf
 
Got it, thanks: don't clean the barrel of my Ruger 10-22 more than once a year or so. I pulled the boresnake through ONE time total and won't do so again until 2012 or after I shoot a few hundred more rounds through it.
 
He is exactly correct. Boresnakes and pull-throughs will wear the muzzle oval over time.

Good grief! just how many times are some people pulling a snake through the barrel on each cleaning?
Seems to me (IMHO) that you would burn the barrel out by shooting it long before a boresnake would wear the muzzle oval.
Bottom line, a bore snake collects dirt and it will act like sand paper and damage your muzzle and crown and hurt accuracy.

Seems to me bullets are doing the very same thing.
And boresnakes are very easily cleaned, I throw mine in the washer.

This opinion is completely unprofessional but I find it hard to believe that barrels are that delicate.
 
I bought one for my new Mini-14 and a couple of .22LR's. The black "bootlace" cord will just barely fit down the bore and takes several minutes of frustration to feed it thru (even in the .22 pistol) to where I can grab the brass end. Then the green part will not fit down the bore no matter how hard I pull. I could not get the green floss even started in the .22 (the folded part where it's attached to the black pull-cord is too big), and in the .223 it wouldn't go past the chamber. Luckily there's no brass bristles in the first few inches of the floss so I could pull it out backwards without damaging the gun.

Worthless POS. It might work in a 6mm, but I don't have a 6mm.
 
Same as has been said.. a 22lr bore probably needs cleaning about once every 10,000 rounds. And that's probably way too much.
 
I have several bore snakes for rifles and shotguns. Never had the trouble you are describing. I always drag mine thru my .22 pistols after a visit to the range. I also run it through my Pdog rifles after every 50 shots or so. A question for all of you out there. I have never put anything on it...solvent or oil...should I? Even running it through dry as I do, leaves the barrel shiny and clean. Periodically though, I get out the whole kit and scrub the inside of the barrel with solvent and brush and lots of cleaning patches.
 
WOW. I clean mine usually every 6 months or so. Doesn't seem to hurt it. I don't think I would want to wait 10,000 before cleaning it. Seems like it would take a lot of patches and q-tips. I like my guns clean.
 
Some .22 barrels are tighter than others.
My 10/22 and my CZ 452 are two of those.
I solved the Boresnake problem by using the .20 caliber Boresnake in these rifles.
Works like a charm!:)
 
Try a .204 boresnake, thats what I use on my .22 and it may take a couple more passes to get the job done but it works. Also make sure the bristles on the brush itself are aiming the right way, trying to pull a reversed brush is hell.
 
When was the last gunfight you were in that you were allowed to clean your gun? Your gun better work dirty, for your sake!
Can't say I've ever been in one, and while I agree that a self-defense/combat firearm should "prove" itself before being trusted to protect life and limb, I think applying the same sorts of standards to .22's and other "range toys" is taking the concept a bit too far, IMO. The truth of the matter is that 99.9995% of us will never need ANY weapon to be "combat ready" because, contrary to mall ninja belief, most of us will never, ever find ourselves in what most would consider a combat environment. Even most cases of self-defense end with the gun being pulled rather than fired.....meaning even most SD situations don't rise to the level of "combat". This idea that each and every gun out there needs to be "combat worthy" just rubs me the wrong way. Its a .22, used for shooting bunnies and making holes in paper....I'm not saying they should be ABUSED, but a jam, for most of us, is nothing but a minor inconvenience and not the life-ender some make it out to be. it may take a few minutes away from my prairie dog blasting, but cleaning my gun in the heat of a firefight just isn't something I'm overly concerned about, especially with my .22's
 
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