Bought a KelTec RFB...what to expect in accuracy?

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I still want one. The dream is a two gun battery of RFB and KSG. A co-worker just let slip he was AT the SHOT show and handled the KSG, said it felt very well made. Add that to an RFB, aka reloaders dream, oh yeah...
 
I still want one. The dream is a two gun battery of RFB and KSG.
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I'm right there with you.

P.S.: Did you decide whether or not to get a M17S? The long-running champ of bullpup rifles.

:)
 
Agreed, finding one at all (locally anyway) is a crapshoot, and the prices have been steadily creeping upwards. My best advice is just to keep looking at gunshows and you might get lucky.

:)
 
I've seen a total of five at local gun shows these past two shows asking prices were:

$1795 & 1695 at HGCA show two weeks ago.
And $1995, 1795, & 1645 at last weeks GRB show.

I'd probably bite at $1500, unless all of a sudden every dealer had them -- which often happens with the SU-2000 models, where when they are scarce the asking price is ~$350-400, when all the major dealers have them they run $279-299.

Bud's "last sold" price was $1290, but they have been out of stock for months.
 
At that price they can keep them, not going to happen. I'll wait for a good financial year to save for an RFB, and concentrate on having fun with the vz-58. ;)
Thanks for the info, guys!
 
Just picked up the RFB today at the shop, and I am IMPRESSED! Feels pretty great. Very hefty and solid (not heavy by any means), and shoulders well. The trigger is very crisp and seems lighter than it really is. My only gripe out of all the features is the charging handle. I would prefer a more curved hook style made of metal, like on an M1A, but that wouldn't be conducive to flipping it for ambidextrous capability, I suppose. Altogether, I love it, so far. I'll chime in again after I take it out, sight in the EOTech 551 that goes on top, and run several mags through it.... stay tuned...
 
I had an M1A SOCOM-II. It weighed 14.5lbs fully loaded (25rnd mag) with a Troy MCS stock, MOE grip and ACS butt-stock, EOTech 511, and a Mako foregrip. And all that weight pretty much began 10 inches from my shoulder. Way too heavy, and way too much gun out in front for my liking. Plus, it only had a 16" barrel, whereas the RFB sports an 18", and is way shorter. I sold the SOCOM-II because it had essentially nothing on the RFB in terms of weight, velocity, accuracy or any of that. I'm not bashing the venerable M1A by any means, but the Kel Tec is simply superior for my criteria.... at least on paper. We'll see how much more (if any) that I like it. It better be a lot, because I loved my M1A, except for the bulk and weight.
 
M1A's are light if you don't weigh them down with a metal chasis stock and all those rails. 9.3 lbs. for a standard 22", and 8.8 lbs. for a Scout.

Still not as light as an RFB though.

I will probably buy one when they come out with the 24" barreled version. I am not a big fan of short-barreled .308s. I hope the 24" "sporter" will still have a chrome-lined barrel that is not super heavy profile. I'd like to keep the rifle light.

I like the concept, but I wish it had a front sight tower on the end of the barrel. You can't put a proper set of iron sights on it the way it is, unless you want pistol sight radius and 3 MOA clicks or something like that with AR sights.

Good iron sights are a must for a battle rifle IMO.
 
Good points, henschman. Considering them, I can add 4" to the sight radius by putting the forward BUIS on a riser on the rail system available for the rifle ( http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215147825 ). There are some fine-adjustment BUIS out there, allowing for good precision. To clarify my previous post a bit, I should add that I don't mind a rifle with some weight, but I do care where the weight is balanced- in the case of the RFB, it's all very close to my chest. The same 8 lbs in an M1A feels heavier because of leverage, where the RFB holds it close and relies your frame to support much of the weight. That's a reason I dig bullpups.
 
That article didn't really address accuracy. He posted a couple of 3 shot groups. One of them was good one was awful.
 
jerkface, from the article:
Federal Gold Medal 168 grain hollowpoint was by far the most accurate ammunition tested in this RFB carbine, grouping reliably under three-quarters of an inch for three shots at one hundred yards. The military ball ammo grouped closer to two inches.
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Seems like the rifle is up to the task, as long as you use match-grade ammunition.
 
Yeah, a suppressor is always a possibility. I've recently met a very skilled machinist who would be up for assisting me in designing and machining one, per regulation on a form 1 build. If I do a suppressor, it will definitely be the 'reflex' style that contours back over the barrel, allowing for more volume, less length, and better suppression. I wanna keep the package compact.

I've read over that Gunblast review many times (I like his reviews as much as his beard, haha), and the 3/4 MOA with match ammo sounded very promising. I'll post pics soon! Definitely this weekend. Soon, fellas!
 
One three shot group tells me nothing. I'd like to see where someone has worked up a load and shot several 5 shot groups.
 
Seems like the rifle is up to the task, as long as you use match-grade ammunition.
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I'm going to echo the sentiment that one three shot group is not something one can reasonably use to draw any conclusions. Three shot groups are not great indicators and the sample size of one is less than ideal as well.
 
JDMorris said:
I like the idea of forward ejection, if someone is shooting on the bench next to me, typically my dad, I get mad when a piece of .223 brass hits me in the head, even worse when he uses the .22 conversion and i get a spray of brass. :(
also makes it easier for a handloader.. and if used in a military situation, you wont see anything like this.. *warning mild language* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxQXBueF4Bc
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I had a chance to shoot some Israeli surplus 9mm about a year and a half ago. While I was firing, one of the spent cases flew back and tagged me. I can imagine that the RFB would be much easier on both the shooter and those in the general vicinity.
 
My 308 POF has some ferocious muzzle blast with the 14.5/16" barrel, I can only imagine what it must be like having the muzzle 6" infront of your face with some hot 308 loads!!!

I handled one in a LGS on wednesday, the smith was welding on a JP brake and blocking the magazines (NY compliant), and it felt pretty good. Decent balance and ergonomics, but I kept wondering what kind of blast the shooters gets to the face being so close to the muzzle...
 
Well, I'm not the thread starter, but I'll help ya out Turtle.
 

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My RFB, when it is working and not at Kel-Tec, suffers vertical stringing when shooting off sandbags, if typical, that would likely explain why it doesn't produce photo worthy groups of more than about three shots.

In fact I've shot tighter groups kneeling than I've gotten off sandbags, something that has never happened with any other gun in my 30+ years of shooting.

I'd guess the way the gas exits up front messes things up when shooting from a support. Last time out I tried my suppressor on it and it seemed to reduce the vertical stringing, but I was really more concerned about function testing since its last repair, so by time I got to try the suppressor the gas regulator was too hot and fouled to adjust and so much gas blew back at me I could barely stand to shoot 5 shots.

I must say I love the way it handles shooting standing, kneeling and sitting, too bad mine has not been reliable even after three trips back to Kel-Tec and two broken part exchanges, jury is still out of if the last broken part exchange has cured the issues. My longest run without a stoppage has so far been 196 rounds :(
 
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