Bought a knife and a sharpener today.....

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Ok, I bought a Gerber knife from Walmart and a knife sharpener from the local army/navy store and I have a few questions.....

1. Are Gerber's good knives for the money?

2. The sharpener I got is yellow and made by Smith.... is Smith a good company... and do you think the sharpener itself is going to get the job done?

3. I tried using the sharpener(its one that you just run the blade over and it sharpens it)....... but the knife still doesnt feel very sharp..... could I be doing something wrong?

4. After I bought the sharpener, someone at work told me that those kind of sharpeners aren't good to use.... is this true... if so, why?

Thanks in advance.
 
CBM2007,

Welcome! Hope you find some useful information here.

To put your mind at ease, overall Gerber makes a good knife.

The type of sharpener that you bought is a reasonable choice if the angle of the sharpening media matches the angle of the beveling on the blade edge. It's also critical that it be held so the both sharpening "stones" keep the same angle with the blade bevels. This ain't so easy to do.

The instructions should have you laying the blade spine down on a stable surface and pulling the sharpener towards the tip as the tip overhangs the surface slightly. You have to keep the blade verticle and the sharpener verticle during the process. Repeat this until you feel the sharpener change from dragging to sliding and you should have a sharper edge.

The problem with these type of sharpeners is that you'll never get a truely sharp edge this way alone. Feel for the wire edge where one side has a little rolling of the edge to that side. You'll need to strop this off by draggin in from the spine to the edge on cardboard or leather. When the wire edge pops off you should have a sharp edge.

You'd be well served to get a sharpmaker, or lansky or gatco "V" sticks and reading the FAQ at the top here to learn to get a good edge.
 
Before I say anything else, let me suggest something that will be far more helpful than my advice: go back out to the forum, look at the top, and click on the "sticky" thread at the top that says "Sharpening FAQ." It's very detailed and will give you a good grounding in the basics.

Now, you've read it and you're back, right? If you still have questions, here are my answers. They aren't much, but they're the best I've got:

1. Opinions vary, but Gerber is a trusted name. I find they're mostly pretty good knives, although for my purposes I think there are better ones for the price. If you like your Gerber, it must be worth its price to you, and that's all that matters.

2. I don't know the name "Smith" in sharpeners off the top of my head, but what do you have? Is it a flat stone? Is it one of those devices with a couple of rods at an angle? Or one of the ones with crossed rods so you get the "right" angle automatically?
Thing is, if it's a flat Arkansas stone of appropriate grit, then it's just fine. If it's one of the doohickeys. . . . well, I find most of those don't work very well. If you want something that helps guide angle, the two most recommended seem to be the Lansky and the Spyderco Sharpmaker. The Sharpmaker gets a lot more recommendations on these forums. I'm getting one myself but have not used one before. I have used the Lansky many times, and it works. It has its limits, though.

3. If you're just starting out, and you're trying to sharpen on a standard stone, you're almost certainly doing it wrong. That's OK! That's what's supposed to happen when you start out. If you want to learn to sharpen, having someone who knows how it's done SHOW you will make it possible to learn much faster. Learning this skill by reading THR is going to be tough.

4. We won't be able to answer this until we know what kind of sharpener you bought and what you're trying to do with it. Are you trying to get a shaving edge? A fairly "thick" edge that will hold up to rough use? It makes a difference.


OK, is the sharpener you bought one of the ones below? I have to admit, I wouldn't want to try to get a really good edge with either. You have no control over the angle you're creating. These are designed for people who have no interest in learning to sharpen a knife and are afraid they'll ruin one if they try to sharpen freehand. If you want to learn to put on a real edge, you need something better. The good news is that you can do a FAR better job with a simple stone or two, a leather strop (or an old leather belt and a little oil) and maybe an old steel. Ever get out to yard sales? Flea markets? You can get all three items for less than one of those cheap Smith sharpeners if you keep your eyes open.
 
Here are the two Smiths I was able to find. HSO is making good sense above.

One of the advantages of something like the Lansky is that it lets you choose from three bevel angles and it involves clamping the blade into the sharpener's jig so that it's held tight at the correct angle, thus minimizing the problem hso mentions with holding the blade correctly. It's still not going to give you the kind of edge that you could create with careful work with a standard stone followed by stropping, though.
 

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Mine is the one with the handle(the one on the left).... I dont really care for it to be shaving sharp, but I would at least like it to be able to cut through cardboard with ease.... I really didn't want to spend more than $10 on a sharpening set today, and I didn't want one of the stone sets, so I got this one.... it wont hurt my knife will it?... because that's what my co-worker was saying, he said that those kind of sharpeners just pushed the dull edge up and didn't really sharpen it.... I don't know, he put it better than that, but i can't really explain it...

EDIT:
I just noticed something on the sharpener...... there's two little screws on a panel right where the V thingy is, I think i might be able to take out those screws and adjust the angle of the V.... I just can't find a screw driver in this house small enough to unscrew them and i don't wanna go out to the shed in the dark/cold...
 
I finish my knives (the ones I make) with a Spyderco Sharpmaker and I'd recommend it to you. I think you can get it online for about $45 and it does the job very well plus you can do serrations, scissors and just about anything else with it.
 
Hi there,

I have owned several Gerber knives including the LST and they are good utility pocket knives for the money.

I have the Smith's sharpener in the kitchen and it works very well at putting a fast edge on a blade. I have used it for about 2 years with great results. I bought it after seeing guides using them in hunting camps where they need to put a fast edge on their working knives.

I also have a Smith's sharpening stone set with 1 medium Arkansas and 1 fine Arkansas stone used for finer sharpening. It came packaged with the stones and a small 2oz bottle of honing oil.

Chris
 
Well, I just took off the little panel, and I guess its just for cleaning.... I tried to move the pieces around, but then I couldn't get the panel back on... oh well
 
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