Brace v Stock finalization & enforcement schedules

Which has to make one wonder, how many other mistakes haven't been caught. Clearly there was no review process, and whoever put that information in the FAQs was not qualified to do so (or was directed to do so to determine what the response would be). Who did that and why? Do you suppose we will ever know?
 
rust collector said:
Which has to make one wonder, how many other mistakes haven't been caught. Clearly there was no review process, and whoever put that information in the FAQs was not qualified to do so (or was directed to do so to determine what the response would be). Who did that and why? Do you suppose we will ever know?
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The same person is likely responsible for this FAQ answer:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-common-or-contract-carrier
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]

Last Reviewed January 30, 2020
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This FAQ answer was wrong the day they wrote it.
ATF knows its wrong because I told them it was wrong over a decade ago.
ATF admitted the error yet chooses not to fix it.

Why is it wrong? The citations below that FAQ answer cite the CFR and US Code.....and those don't agree.
The part that is wrong? Notification is not required by federal law when shipping a firearm within your state or to a licensee in another state. Written notification is only required when you are shipping interstate to a nonlicensee. And with two narrow exceptions, that a crime itself. (the exceptions are shipping to yourself and the return of a repaired or replacement firearm)
 
It looks like the brace rule will be posted to the federal register tomorrow, Jan 31. I checked this morning and they now have it listed as pending.

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So the 120 day grace period will start tomorrow ( if posted)
 
The SAF has already filed one suit and has another hearing scheduled for the first part of February. I am sure the rest of the lawsuits will be filed on the 31st or shortly after.
 
mcb said:
Let the lawsuits rain!
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All they have to do is hit "send".................:)( as @MachIVshooter has already stated)

I have a feeling that this legislation fight could drag on for a LOOOOOng time, that being said, I eform(ed) 1 for an SBR to take advantage of the tax free stamp.............:thumbup:

While I was at it, I eform(ed) 4 for a .46 cal SilencerCo Hybrid 46 in hopes of suppressing a Marlin 45-70..............:):):):):):):):):):)
 
Let's use this example:

I have an AR pistol with a stabilizing brace.
I have submitted an eform 1 for a SBR.
Since I have the submission in the 120 day "grace" period, can I remove the brace and replace it with a rifle stock...............?
Pg 6559 of the registry does not mention that......
 
Soonerpesek said:
Let's use this example:

I have an AR pistol with a stabilizing brace.
I have submitted an eform 1 for a SBR.
Since I have the submission in the 120 day "grace" period, can I remove the brace and replace it with a rifle stock...............?
Pg 6559 of the registry does not mention that......
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I have seen a number of posts saying to keep the gun as-is until you get the stamp.

It is my understanding that after you get the stamp, temporary changes are allowed as desired (you need to keep all parts required to restore it to the official configuration). Any "permanent changes" that affect the official description in their database, require you to notify them of the change.
 
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Just take the brace off of your pistol (even the disabled persons) until the lawsuits are settled.
 
Jeff H said:
Weld the can on?
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We just need some entrepreneurial person to design a system that allows the handguard to be "permanently" installed (near the barrel extension, to allow for free floating from that point forward) to the barrel that allows for a suppressor to slip under the rail that extends to the 16" minimum.

I'll gladly permanently install a handguard, or have a gunsmith do it to keep the ability to run the rifle with a stock or a pistol buffer tube and retain it's concealed carry, crossing state lines benefits, non-NFA receiver benefits.
 
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