Brady Campaign - Do you support it?

Do you support the Brady Campaign?

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No! Just No!

I cannot support them in any fashion. I am opposed to the very premise upon which they say they base their position, not to mention my opposition to their actual stance on the issue of civilian gun ownership and use. I oppose any law, any act, any organization that hinders law abiding citizens from exercising their God given rights, which are by the way, spelled out in the Constitution of the United States. Brady and all of her sister organizations say that we should have to justify our need to own, possess, or use a gun, and I say that all real Americans, all people who love and value freedom should fight to protect our God given rights.
 
The founder of Handgun Control, Nelson Shields,
was pretty open about wanting to ban handguns
from all but very narrow defined minority--licensed
private security, perhaps select gun clubs, maybe
veternarians or other professionals with a job-related
need. Shields got nowhere, so the Bradys were
brought on as figureheads and the rhetoric was
turned down a notch or two (from overkill to 10).
 
People think that because of scams like this http://www.huntersandshooters.org/
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There was a good article on them in a recent issue of First Freedom.

http://www.huntersandshooters.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=98&Itemid=33

There are certain factors that weigh heavily against keeping a gun in the home for self-protection. One of the most widely quoted statements about guns is that a firearm kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than an intruder.
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The AHSA is a LIE. Real gun owners don't need the assistance of any such organization in making gun-related decisions. Just another organization who feel it is their place to tell you and I what to do.
 
In addition to the philosophy

AND...

in addition to the political reasons written earlier;
The practicing of firearm accuracy is an incredible art form. To maintain sense of ease under pressure, to discipline the body through repetition and practice, its a real form of meditation without all the hocus pocus crap. To put a bullet where you think it to be, WOW, what a rush!!! I have seen kids go from out of control to responsible with appropriate safety and handling training working up with dummy weapons, and into air rifles with corresponding character education. Our society would only benefit from having a national school-based accuracy program from the middle school up (with air rifles). This would not only prevent mishandling by teaching safety it would also impart a sense of respect for the power of a firearm and help stop this video-game-driven lust for violence (mostly people who have never seen or experienced it for real).
The Brady's have no idea how vulnerable our country may end up in the future, or is. . . I once asked a group of friends, some were fence sitters on gun issues, "If you knew something terrible was happening and society was shaking around you, would you rather be with a Marching Mom and a pink sign or with an armed man looking out for his community and protecting his family, regardless of his religion or political views?" Needless to say, I warned them I didn't have enough food for everyone.
I don't know if the Brady's are just ignorant and misled, or in fact, intent on undermining and destroying this country for a piece of the global pie. In my book, they are treasonous cowards.:banghead:
 
Although I did meet the man himself a couple time (same fraternity) and he was a good guy.
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I'm curious what you mean by that. I'm sure he might well be a pleasant fellow in person. However, because he has lent his name to an effort to deny the basic human rights of millions, I can't imagine calling him a good guy. The average anti-gun citizen might have the excuse of being misguided on an issue he hasn't studied deeply, but I doubt he is in that category.

On the other hand, I don't know how his injuries have affected his mind.
 
I just got an argument from a guy claiming that a lot of responsible gun owners support the Brady Campaign, and that their goal is not to disarm America, but simply allow reasonable ownership. I'd say more, but will feign a lack of bias for the sake of the opening entry of the poll.
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My answer to the poll was of course "NO".

But I do believe there are plenty of gun owners out there who do agree with the so-called "reasonable" gun bans/restrictions/licensing/etc.

Having been born and raised in PA and now living in AZ, I have met many "hunter only" types. These are people that own guns only for hunting and that is it. They have a bolt action and a shotgun in the closet. They put 10 rounds down range maybe once a year to make sure the scope is still zeroed. Once they have their deer and/or small game the guns are cleaned and put away for another year.

IMHO, these are the "gun owners" who get caught up in the whole "reasonable" gun law arguments. They don't see the big picture when it comes to banning guns.

When the Brady Bunch says all 5.7/saturday night specials/.50 cal/[insert gun type here] should be banned, the hunter only types do not argue against it because it does not impact their right or ability to go hunting.

This is not meant to be a sweeping generalization against hunters. There are plenty of gun enthusiasts who hunt. And plenty of hunters who could care less about 5.7 handguns being banned. I have met them. I have had them for neighbors. I have been called a "gun nut" because I owned guns that were considered useless for hunting. I have been called a gun nut because I go to the range year round with said useless guns.

These are also the people who won't know what hit them when "they" come for their high power rifle because it can defeat bulletproof vests. Theses will be the same people who will scream in anger why no one did anything to stop "them" from taking their hunting rifles.
 
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The key word is "REASONABLE".

Who gets to define REASONABLE? Whenever I hear someone, such as the Brady Bunch, say they just want "reasonable" gun control I ask this question. The answer is never, ME. Since I am the only reasonable person I know forget it, I don't want someone else setting up the rules. Reasonable to me is Vermont style. Everything else is control and that is what the Brady Bunch is all about. They are subtle, but control of our guns is what they want.
 
What was reasonable alcohol control to Carrie Nation?
Busting up the local bar with a hatchet. That is the
crusader mentality in a nut shell. Their opposition to
a scapegoat they have named eeevile stocks their ego.
 
A reasonable conclussion should always be a possibility if not a probability. The second someone take the stance that a reasonable conclussion is not a possibility then they have declared that people are not capable of good judgement and have made it hard to believe they can be trusted with a deadly weapon.

When I hear someone say "who is to decide what is reasonable" my skin crawls. We are the ones that decide what is reasonable. The fair minded and free thinking people on both sides. To be a reasonable compromise it has to be something that both sides can agree on and still feel confident that their needs are being met.

The only people that are not satisfied with a truely reasonable compromise are the far extremes of both sides. In my opinion they are a minority that I would never want to please anyway.
 
I am the one undecided vote. Mainly because I have not read it yet.
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Hey, read it then vote. Or don't read it but don't vote then. Somehow, from your old posts I said to myself "If one guy's a yes, it will be that Playboy guy".

I am not for or against the people of Darfur, but I am not going to have us send in troops or anything until we know more. Most of them are being macheted to death because they have no guns except the ones who are starving by food being witheld as in a war time siege.
 
They essentially want me dead. The strong lording it over the weak is no problem for them.

Do I support them? Nyet!
 
Brady Who??

This assault rifle owner votes no. Its the best varmint rifle I have.
Trying to explain to the Brady Bunch is a waste of time.

:) :) :) :)
 
I said to myself "If one guy's a yes, it will be that Playboy guy"
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Hey, thanks. I take it as a compliment that I have made enough of impression on you to think I am a person that will say what I think even if it goes against a prevailing opinion. :)
 
I wonder if Bobhwry would be so kind as to offer up why he's on the fence. It's always nice to know.
 
I've not read the replies of others - intentionally - so here's what I think: who is the Brady (Bunch) Campaign to determine what arms we can bear? The message they send is paradoxical: they say they are about supporting our rights to own firearms (only some, of course), and pass judgment on how each state is performing / upholding THEIR view of firearm ownership. In other words, some are "okay" some are "not." :confused:

I might suggest they look beyond our borders and our time to learn the lessons of history.

Those lessons, it seems, are the easiest to forget, at least for some.

Take care,
DFW1911
 
I support the brady campaign in dropping dead.
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My thoughts exactly......I've never seen anything but disingenuous hysteria and outright lies from this group. A gun owner would have to be retarded to support this group, regardless of any "balance" on issues they perceive.
 
The fair minded and free thinking people on both sides. To be a reasonable compromise it has to be something that both sides can agree on and still feel confident that their needs are being met.

The only people that are not satisfied with a truely reasonable compromise are the far extremes of both sides. In my opinion they are a minority that I would never want to please anyway.
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:scrutiny:

PlayboyPenguin, the Brady campaigns only "needs" are to take your guns. And you want to compromise with them?

When faced with oppression it must be defeated, not bargained with. Sheesh.
 
require all middle aged men to get bad afro perms.
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... as opposed to GOOD afro perms? :neener:


Man, are we ever dull. No one voting yes? Not even to be a wiseass?
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I gotta admit I thought about it, being an incorrigible wiseass, but couldn't bring myself to do it. Brady bunchers are just too annoying

Regards.
 
A reasonable conclussion should always be a possibility if not a probability. The second someone take the stance that a reasonable conclussion is not a possibility then they have declared that people are not capable of good judgement and have made it hard to believe they can be trusted with a deadly weapon.
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What "reasonable conclussion" do you expect from the neo-Nazi National Alliance or NAMBLA?

Yes, it is entirely possible for somebody to not only be completely wrong, but completely evil.
 
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