Brass shavings when expanding ?

jski

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When I expand (flare) the case mouth on my brass using a Redding die, I see these shavings. I guess I’ve seen them before but not as many. Is this normal?

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I'll see that if I'm over crimping, and if I look up in my neck sizing die. That does look like a lot but you didn't say how many cases you flared. There will always be a little.
If you haven't cleaned your dies for a long time, some of that could be from previous batches that is just falling out of the die randomly.
 
There were approximately 200 cases.

In this case they were Starline’s 32 H&R brass. The crimp I used was from a Redding taper crimp die. This brass was only once fired.
 
Seems normal to me for 200 cases if you were also crimping. I get a lot more than that crimping 200 fresh starline (also using Redding taper crimp)
 
Not completely unusual with new cases, or trimmed but not deburred/chamfered cases. As you use them over and over, that will lesson/go away.

But I deburr/chamfer all revolver brass. :)
Brand spanking new brass from Starline?
 
I size duburr chamfer all new brass also. I have received new brass with dented mouths burr in flash holes from lots of manufacturers. So it all gets brass prep . I also tumble in corn cob media with some polish to make sizing easier.
 
Can you take the expander out of the die and look at where the case mouth is stopping on the expander. If you have the standard expander it’s easy to see, if you have the TiN coated it might be harder to see.
Maybe post a picture so others can comment if it looks normal or not.
I have experienced new Starline Brass building up on the expander, and then galling the cases after it had built up. This could possibly cause shavings.
 
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If you did chamfer and deburr.....that operation would have all the brass shavings......if you didn't....expanding is where it happens (9mmepiphany's post) and not unexpected IMO. So did you?....chamfer/deburr first?
 
If you did chamfer and deburr.....that operation would have all the brass shavings......if you didn't....expanding is where it happens (9mmepiphany's post) and not unexpected IMO. So did you?....chamfer/deburr first?
No, I did not. But keep in mind that this is once used brass, hence the case mouth had been flared once before using the same Redding die.
 
I get noticeably more brass shavings on my presses if the brass has been wet tumbled. If I just dry tumble the brass, almost no shavings.
Wet tumbling is more violent on the brass than a vibratory cleaner is with the pins and cases banging against each other and it usually strips away any of the tarnish that also acts like a form of lubricant, to some degree.
 
Can you take the expander out of the die and look at where the case mouth is stopping on the expander. If you have the standard expander it’s easy to see, if you have the TiN coated it might be harder to see.
Maybe post a picture so others can comment if it looks normal or not.
I have experienced new Starline Brass building up on the expander, and then galling the cases after it had built up. This could possibly cause shavings.
It’s just fairy dust but, yes, take the die apart and look at it just before you clean it (with what? Heck that’s another thread—but I polish with Flitz).

I’ll wager you’ll have a significant buildup on the expander. It’s a thing, but again just accumulated fairy dust.

Like was said by @JHTexas and others, and way back in post 6, too clean brass = galling.

Just for fun, take a look at this—it’s loaded.

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Doesn’t look so bad to me at all. You know the old saying—The cleaner the brass the more the galli

When I expand (flare) the case mouth on my brass using a Redding die, I see these shavings. I guess I’ve seen them before but not as many. Is this normal?

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So, your sliding soft brass into a sharp machined holder and wondering how brass gets shaved off? You've demonstrated your lack of cleaning your equipment. Important demonstration for new reloaders out there. Clean machinery lasts longer
 
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