BREAKING: Andrew Cuomo Seizes Emergency Powers to Fight Gun Violence 'Public Health' Emergency

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....and it shows that the anti-2A crowd will attack from any angle imaginable. San Diego attacks on a financial basis. Cuomo calls it a "public health crisis", feeling emboldened by the power he was able to wield in managing (insert eye roll here) the pandemic.

I am curious as to exactly what the "Trump Loophole" for acquiring firearms is. Should I be ashamed for not utilizing some new, deceitful way of legally buying guns? I must have missed it, thinking all the "loopholes" they continually reference are the same old constitutionally protected rights we've had for years.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cuomo-declares-disaster-emergency-gun-200127511.html

Reference to Trump Loophole in paragraph 4
 
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So we need to be ready and expect that whatever the Democrats cause (defund the police movement - rising crime because of it) they will punish the law abiding citizens for the results.

Reading the Cuomo quotes was disgusting.

Have politicians always lied this much or am I just noticing it more as I get older?
 
There is really nothing surprising in this story. It is Cuomo who is trying to cover up for his disastrous administration and New York the bastion of liberalism. Liberals are going to keep trying to take away our 2nd amendment rights any way they can and New York is a perfect petri dish to test public opinion and pushback.
 
It will in no way allow him to impose restrictions that the courts have not previously allowed. And given that New York imposes a number of already questionably legal measures on gun owners, there is simply very little left for him to do in any event. Finally, unless he uses such authority to reinstitute 'stop and frisk', which of course he will not, he will have zero impact on gun crimes in NY state.
 
Let's take it to the extreme, let people sue over anything and sue everyone involved.

Drunk driver kills family, sue the car manufacturer for not installing a alcohol meter, sue the bar and Jack Daniels! And the state if the driver has had a DUI in the past!

Release a felon and that person kills someone, sue the guards, warden and the state for letting them go! Along with that, why not the judge and DA that should have said no to letting them out.

Sounds good to me, if we're going to let people sue gun manufacturers for people that do stupid things with them. It should apply to everyone else also, not just one industry.

See how bad this could get?!
 
I wouldn't get to worked up over it. The NY SAFE act was largely disemboweled when most of the sheriffs signed a by name rebuke flatly stating they would not enforce it. What the reaction to this overreach by others who swore to work for the people is more important. I'm happy for his attempt - it forces his supporters to justify it, and it also puts those on the fence in a position they have to stop hiding from Cuomo's despotism and face it.

Speculative fantasy isn't going to even compare with the levels of hyperbole that will be used to say "this is ok." Enjoy the show, a Governor is not loved by the Legislature who think they alone hold the reigns of power. And Judges despise overreach even more. Get popcorn, it's going to be quite the burlesque.
 
And people wondered what the extra Trillion was for in the Infrastructure Bill!
Can't wait to see what the left coast answer to this is?!
Apparently the heat from The Climate Change Emergency has just increased along with gas prices!
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Was the SAFE act not safe enough? NY has some of the most stringent gun laws in the country. Guess they better pass them all again. Clearly they didn't work the first time.

Born in NY. Grew up in NY. You couldn't pay me enough money to live there again.
 
It’s all a dog and pony show, they know it won’t have any real benefits, but they can look at their pals and go, see, i did it. I beat the nra again, the New York gun clubs, and goa..... They “look good” to their friends because they passed an empty law that only hurts the law abiding citizens(which is their whole intent) and when it doesn’t work, they just infringe a little more, then a little more, et cetera.

Remember kids, this isn’t really about stopping criminals or taking their guns, it’s about infringing on our rights and taking ours. If they were actually trying to do some good, they would enforce the laws they already have and punish the bad people while leaving us law abiding citizens alone. When is the last time any of you saw that happen in one of these places?

This isn’t politics or political, this is flat out criminal, nefarious, immoral, and illegal. There is a legal recourse available to us and we need to use it before we loose that too. Sue them personally and collectively out of existence, destroy them financially and then prosecute them to the fullest.
 
I wouldn't get to worked up over it. The NY SAFE act was largely disemboweled when most of the sheriffs signed a by name rebuke flatly stating they would not enforce it. What the reaction to this overreach by others who swore to work for the people is more important. I'm happy for his attempt - it forces his supporters to justify it, and it also puts those on the fence in a position they have to stop hiding from Cuomo's despotism and face it.

Speculative fantasy isn't going to even compare with the levels of hyperbole that will be used to say "this is ok." Enjoy the show, a Governor is not loved by the Legislature who think they alone hold the reigns of power. And Judges despise overreach even more. Get popcorn, it's going to be quite the burlesque.

With all due respect, I believe you may underestimate the potential threat that can spill across NY's boarders . The anti's have been creeping forward for some time with the health factor. You are not just fighting Cuomo, you are fighting other blue states, and the AMA. I hope you are correct, but if this gets traction it can be more serious. I think Cuomo will be done come election times, and I think he knows it. He has nothing to loose so can play to his party as they will take care of him, and the emergency powers hands him a potent tool. JMO
 
The little Emperor's commanding statements certainly put him in the limelight. Such concern for the NY citizens.

He must be dreading various aspects of what easily could happen in the Mid-Term elections.

I'm not trying to minimize the potential risks, but coming from a totally shameless, irresponsible governor, he is painfully aware that he needs to polish his image, to say the least.

No matter what his "team" later actually Does about this, the Esteemed Governor must be feeling desperate, to create this possibility (first) as a distraction from so many desperate crime problems, partly caused by the worthless, contemptible (former 'Sandinista Wannabe') NYC Mayor..
 
With all due respect, I believe you may underestimate the potential threat that can spill across NY's boarders . The anti's have been creeping forward for some time with the health factor. You are not just fighting Cuomo, you are fighting other blue states, and the AMA. I hope you are correct, but if this gets traction it can be more serious. I think Cuomo will be done come election times, and I think he knows it. He has nothing to loose so can play to his party as they will take care of him, and the emergency powers hands him a potent tool. JMO

I'm not ignoring it. However, I'll go so far as to remind readers that Trump got 70 million votes and his opposition is questionable having that many. Broken down state by state, there are about half a dozen who will likely attempt the same thing. That leaves 40+ states who will not, and have been passing laws which disable a lot of what they would try.

Even in those "blue" states which seem to toe a line, most of the non metro counties are significantly not. What we are seeing is the reaction by a few who clog the hallways of power in state houses and legislatures, and they are not the majority. They are an interconnected web of influence with fewer numbers than many understand.

Keep in mind that "emergency powers" can and have been limited in other states who are working to make it stick. At present, we don't even know what he plans, and what resources he may attempt to throw at the task. Again, we have done the math - there can't be any effective door to door action, even the White House will fail miserably trying to get more vaccinations. (And what list are they working off of?) I'd expect him to direct voluntary turn in prior to an expiration of gun rights of ownership, which will trigger millions of residents to sue, start demonstrations, and eventually taint the last few chances of him even publicly campaigning. Nope, he's an embattled despot who has stepped over the line constitutionally and everything that follows is tainted fruit of this poisoned tree. The stance that somehow gun crime is a major health issue is more than obviously overreach and a seizure of the people's rights. We will see just how he will grip them in the face of millions of NY gun owners who really don't have to do a thing. No turn ins, no support, no enforcement. Just laugh at him exactly the same as they laughed at the SAFE Act. And other states? There is no wall of blue in this country, there are battle grounds of a few metros attempting to coerce a much larger majority of counties who refuse to cooperate. Is that not exactly what the electoral map shows? The least number of counties ever won by a candidate?

Some oldsters may volunteer to be the target of enforcement shooting a squirrel or getting face time as a woke hero saying "I own guns but - " and it's an old well known publicity stunt. We will see some inroads among the compliant who want to be victims, we will also see significant failures of inaction because they lack any support by the people.

You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. The People are becoming much more aware of it now.
 
https://news.yahoo.com/cuomo-declares-disaster-emergency-gun-200127511.html

Reading down into what he is doing, Cuomo appropriated $138 million for - what? Reading the end of the news article, it mentions other questionable financial activities that his own state is investigating, along with other improprieties that seem to directly coincide with other bad news and which replace it in the headlines.

What I'm seeing is a lot of meetings, greetings, and PR releases to prove how safe NY has become to get the ex NY'ers back, and that isn't going to happen soon, if at all. Getting various figureheads of compliant groups to support some semblance of gun control won't really fix the problem and will drive legal owners into the woodwork.

It would appear to be just another stunt by Cuomo to access money he can control without direct Legislative approval. If stopping the "pandemic of gun violence" was really a goal, then enforce the law and get better convictions, build more jails and done. Has that ever happened in a blue state yet? $138 mill isn't enough for a new prison to hold all the convicts of gun violence - and it would require revising a lot of policies that seem to shirk enforcement already. A lot of this seems directledat New York City, too - which then makes it appear as taking control away from Deblasio.

It's a misdirection to look at this, not what he fears most coming down the road. Which makes it politics, not really a 2A discussion.
 
He is on his way out and knows it. He is making desperate attempts to the national democratic party to try and find himself a soft landing spot in Biden's administration. But not even Uncle Joe is dumb enough to offer him a lifeline.
 
Not a Second Amendment ‘issue’ at all.
That kinda depends. If you declare an Emergency, then some rights get suspended "for the greater good". NY is already pretty heavily anti 2A, so with him declaring a state of emergency about "Gun Violence" that conceivably signals an upcoming round of new restrictions. The key, of course, is that they focus on the "gun" part, and not the "violence".
 
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