Breaking news -- California recall vote STOPPED

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Yaaay! This totally undemocratic recall that was signed by only a few million people has been overturned by a troika of political appointees!
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**!@#$$^%$ Clintons
%$#@^%&^!! Davis
^%#^% Democrat, %$##-eating head-in-sand Socialist %$#$nuts.
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I do not like these...creatures. I do not like their politics. I *really* do not like them in my life, and I really want them out of my wallet.

Isn't overturning (with extreme prejudice) a tyrannical government the whole purpose-in-being of the 2nd Amendment? Oh, wait...isn't this is the same Circut Court that said that the Second Amendment doesn't really mean what it says, nor does it apply to me, or them?


By the way, is anyone else having a heck of a time logging onto THR servers?
 
How about that Ninth Circus?

The voting system that was perfectly okay to elect Gray Davis is found defective for recalling him. Naturally, the 3-judge panel consisted of 3 Democratic appointees. I'm sure it's all just a coincidence. :rolleyes:
 
If I'm not mistaken, aren't they the ones who ruled against "God" in the Pledge of Allegience?

Jumpin' Jehozafat, could they be more leftist?
 
Let's remember back on who is advising "Red" Davis on how to keep his job? It's none other than the same guy who was advising Al Whore on how to tie up the last Presidential election...it's BILL CLINTON. These guys are good, very good. They find 3 judges appointed by Democrats - Blow Job Bill appointed two and that pinhead peanut farmer appointed the other one. Isn't it amazing they handed the election to Davis on a silver platter? Bush better watch his behind in the next election.

Does the will of the people mean anything? No.

Will the Supreme court take this one? No.

Will Davis win? Yep, it's a sure thing now. I just hope he takes that little turd Crud Boozamonte, stuff him and uses him for a door stop in one of the Capital restrooms. That'll teach him to jump ship.

This one is too funny for words.
 
Oh, what a surprise!
The ACLU is supporting this BS! CSPAN is showing a spiel from some...creature telling me that these punch-card voting machines are totally unreliable, and how wonderful and cheat=proo the computerized ones are.

I DO NOT want these bunch of chicken farts claiming to defend my civil rights. They may have been formed for that purpose, but if this is the sterling leadership that they offer today, they should not claim any such lofty aim, and do not deserve their name.


(What's worse, their mouthpiece keeps putting a "t" in across. It's really annoying.)

They have circumvented a constitutionally mandated electoral process. THEY HAVE MADE THIS STATE, AND BY CONNECTION, ALL OTHER AMERICAN STATES NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER GO**AM POS THIRD-WORLD DICTATORSHIP!

Don't tell me that lawyers should work this out. Dammed lawyers have created this whole mess in the first place. Dammed lawyers have bollixed this whole state. When Shakespeare wrote, "The first thing we do, is lets kil all the lawyers," it was a would-be dictator trying to destroy the kingdom. But today, lawyers are running the state, they are in the legislative as well as judicial branches; they are taking this state from any hint of a rational political realm, and into a tyranny of ridiculous, torturously-worded legal opinions that have less worth than the paper they are printed on. These are the people that Franklin warned of, and these are the people that we have a second amendment for; "...being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms,..." Are these the action of a judiciary with the interests of a free state at heart, or something else entirely?
 
I wrote all of my CA friends and asked if the people there were cleaning the guns and marching on Sacramento yet.

God, thank you for giving me the good sense to flee that Hellhole while it was still a one-ring circus.
-- Amen
 
If I were a liberal and asked, in regard to a conservative 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, “What’s the penalty for Nuking the 9th and where can I get a bomb?â€, I’m sure I’d get support from my fellow liberals and no flak from the media.:rolleyes:

But I’m not a liberal, so to ask that question about an ultra liberal 9th Circuit Court would, I’m sure, get me in more hot water than a 4# lobster at Seafood Broiler.:eek:

So what the h*** can we do about the ultra liberal and unconstitutional decisions handed down by this clearly un-American court, decisions clearly intended to thwart the will of the people?
 
9th Circuit provides ...

an abject lesson in why our founding fathers saw fit to include the 2nd Amendment in our constitution.
Bob
 
I agree. They have gone too far this time. The PRK Constitution guarentees us an election in a specified time frame. To abrogate a right much a part of democracy makes me think we are living in the USSR!


So the question stands: "Now what?"
 
Please edit the title of your thread.

It is "Ninth circus court."



Thanks and sorry for the nitpick.
 
I thought this was just a California thing,

So why is a Federal court involved? It's not like they're electing a U.S. rep or senator, or the prez. OHH now I have it! It's that li'l ol' votin' rights act! I thought that was only meant to apply to us benighted Southerners. Snork! What goes around, comes around.
 
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So what the h*** can we do about the ultra liberal and unconstitutional decisions handed down by this clearly un-American court, decisions clearly intended to thwart the will of the people?
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Californians, Up Front. As much as I love good old fashioned California jokes, I must admit the state is usually in the vanguard of any social movement. I seems to me once again California is in the lead of social change. One such change is the realization the judiciary at the federal level is out of control. We see outrages all over the country but people tend to huff and puff and get over it in preparation for the next outrage. But it seems something just sprung in California. Who can predict what direction the recall will take when you fold in a simmering anger over unjustified judicial abuse and harassment by favored legal organizations such as the ACLU, etc.

My crystal ball is is cloudy and cracked but I may see evidence the opponents of the recall may have just done something unsanitary to their messkit.
 
And where does Bush come down on this scandal? The whole world
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Given that this is still a state issue, notwithstanding its national impact, he's remaining neutral as he should. What should he do? Discipline the Ninth Circuit? That's the job of the Supreme Court or Congress, not the President. It's that whole separation of powers, Constitution thing.

Why is it people want the federal gov't out of things but only until it would be handy for their side for the federal gov't to be involved in things?
 
The pinkos, um, liberals, want this to go to the Supreme Court, they want the Supremes to uphold the recall. Then the pin..........uh, liberals can whine about how the "right wing court" has once again circumvented the will of the people, just like they did when they stole the election from Al Gore for GW.

I swear that every time a Democrat opens his mouth to let out another lie I want to:barf: :barf: :barf:
 
Read the part below on the "potential wrinkle" - it's great. Read Kevin Shelley's bio http://www.ss.ca.gov/executive/sec_shelley_bio.htm and let me know if you think he'll do anything and everything he can to delay this election.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/15/recall.next/index.html


The anti-tax activist who initiated the effort to recall California Gov. Gray Davis will ask the U.S. Supreme Court as early as Tuesday to stay the federal appeals court ruling that ordered the vote postponed.

Ted Costa, head of Sacramento-based activist group People's Advocate and an intervener in the case, will also request a hearing on the matter, they said.

The panel gave Secretary of State Kevin Shelley, the state's top election official, and Costa seven days to appeal the ruling.

The Supreme Court is not scheduled to reconvene until October 6. Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who oversees the 9th Circuit, would make a decision on the emergency stay request.

If she grants a stay, the full court could decide to hold an emergency hearing. If a stay is granted and the court does not discuss the matter before October 7, the election would proceed.

If Monday's ruling stands, however, the recall vote would be moved to the next statewide election, the presidential primary March 4, which is expected to draw more voters than the recall, especially Democrats.

Davis had pushed for a later election, believing he could win enough support to defeat the recall if he had more time.

Costa's attorneys, including lawyers for the recall activist group Rescue California, expressed confidence that a stay would be granted and that the court would want to hear the case.

The 9th Circuit has a reputation as one of the most liberal appellate courts in the federal judiciary, and the Supreme Court often reverses its decisions.

Some of its decisions spark national controversy, such as the one last year that found the words "under God" in school recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance amounted to an unconstitutional establishment of religion.

The Supreme Court has shown recent interest in state voting matters, notably Bush vs. Gore -- the dispute over the 2000 presidential vote in Florida. The case was frequently cited in 9th Circuit panel's opinion.

Costa does face a potential wrinkle. If the state follows the standard appeals process and request that the full 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals hear the case, then the Supreme Court may be reluctant to take action.

Shelley said he would announce his position on the ruling Tuesday. He sent a memo to county elections workers Monday advising them to continue preparing for an October 7 election.
 
Given that this is still a state issue, notwithstanding its national impact, he's remaining neutral as he should. What should he do? Discipline the Ninth Circuit? That's the job of the Supreme Court or Congress, not the President. It's that whole separation of powers, Constitution thing.
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The spinelessrepublican party claims to play hardnosed NFL football yet it has an aversion to getting its uniform dirty. If spinelessrepublicans had a history of engaging in meaningful and fruitful political combat then I would not concern myself with the absence of a national presence during the recall.

However, spinelessrepublicans have a history of avoiding political combat under all circumstances leaving its supporters high and dry. Looks like what is going on here. Yes, Cali is Cali's problem. One national party is making it national and the other national party hasn't a clue. In politics, why should one party rigidly hold the the "rules" (however defined) while the other party refuses to play of the "rules"? The name of the game is control of the levers of power. There are no points awarded in politics for principal and holding to he rules.

There are times when I think the spinelessrepublican party is incapable of governance. Other times I think they don't deserve it.

Help me out there! Is there any identifiable principal for which the spinelessrepublican party is willing to fight?
 
The name of the game is control of the levers of power. There are no points awarded in politics for principal and holding to he rules.
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Ever consider that that thought is what got us to where we are today? When the Constitution was created, principles guided the creation of the rules and gave them both moral and legal weight. When politicians focused on power at all costs, they gave up their principles in exchange for said power.

Should Bush be silent? Probably not. But his only comments should be to remind everyone that non-Californians need to stay out of it, and that the rule of law (the actual law, not what the Ninth Circus wants) should govern.

But, if we really want to play hard ball, why not have the DOJ begin an investigation of a conspiracy to violate civil rights based on the combined impact of the CA motor voter law and Davis' signing the bill allowing illegals to get motor vehicle licenses, and thus illegally obtain voting privileges. I think there could be a RICO prosecution or two in that, especially since the Ninth Circus' delay of the election may allow the conspiracy to bear fruit by March.
 
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