British Military 9mm Jacketed Soft Point 95 Grain

[FlyPenFly]

I was just wondering if anyone knew the performance of these rounds compared to other pistol common pistol rounds. I'm especially curious about effectiveness from a pistol barrel instead of a SMG barrel.

ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php?pName=1000rds-9mm-federal-british-military-95gr-jacketed-soft-point&cName=9mm-fmj-ammo

 

[mattk]

That looks like neat ammo. I would probably not use it any Alloy framed gun.
British SMG ammo tends to be HOT.
The website has decent prices on HP ammo compared to local stores here.
$24.99 will get you a box of 20 rounds of premium 9mm defensive ammo locally.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Darn it. I was planning on shooting these out of an alloy framed gun, should I really be worried?

 

[Headless]

This ammo is safe to shoot in all 9mm weapons. This ammo is packed in the standard black and white military style federal 50rd. box, 1000rds. per case.

Questions?

 

[FlyPenFly]

Would this be better than FMJ 115 grain factory ammo if it were ever to be used in a self defense situation?

 

[rcmodel]

Any soft point or hollow point would be better then 115 grain FMJ.

It doesn't matter what it is, it would be better then that!

Personally, I can't see going with a 95 grain SP bullet in a 9mm pistol.

From a CQB sub-gun, you get target saturation, and lack of penetration is not a concern.

With a pistol, a 95 grain bullet that expands excessively may not get in deep enough.

rcmodel

 

[UKarmourer]

Darn it. I was planning on shooting these out of an alloy framed gun, should I really be worried?

I'm an armourer with the British army
put it this way, on my recent Sig conversion course we were informed that all Sig pistols will have a record of rounds fired, due to the issue of cracking.
They will be serviced every 5000 rds

Not seen a BHP frame or slide crack yet, and some of those are well over 40yrs old!

 

[FlyPenFly]

Well that's not very comforting.

I was planning to shoot these from a 9mm Sig P228 and a CZ P-01.

 

[Walkalong]

I bought 500 rounds of 95 Gr Radway Green some time back. 450 fit in a .30 Cal ammo can and I shot the other 50. I did not chrono them, but they shot just fine in a couple of pistols and a CX4 Storm.

 

[jonnyc]

My buddy got a bunch of this. We found it a bit too hot in a few pistols, but his CX4 loves it.

 

[golden]

Not A New Load

Everybody,

This is not a new load for FEDERAL. They used to sell the 95 grain soft point as an across the counter load. It was tried by some police departments back in the 1980's and dropped. The short bullett could be finincky feeder and the round was found inferior to the standard FEDERAL 115 grain hollow point. I think the INDIANA State Police used it for a while when the adopted S&W model 39's.

Being a European country and the complaints about treaty violations by using hollow point, I think the was just a compromise load.

Also, frame cracking is a known problem with high round aluminum framed SIG 226's. Note that the BROWNING High Power is a steel frame gun.

No biggy, if you shoot a competition level, use a steel gun. If you carry your gun, stick with aluminum.

Jim

 

[Newton]

I have never heard of the British Military using this load, why would the military want JSPs anyway, FMJ was even used in Northern Ireland.

But the police most definitely used it until recently, and it worked very, very well for them, almost always out of an MP5. I suspect that the reason this round is now being pushed out through the wholesale distributors is that the Brit cops have switched to better loads like the Gold Dot.

At $10 a box this stuff is an absolute steal, it's barely more expensive than FMJ, and a great SHTF stash.

 

[McCall911]

9mm Jacketed Soft Point 95 Grain

So basically what we have here is a .380 in a 9mm case with a somewhat higher velocity.

Nah, I think I'll pass for self-defense, but I wouldn't mind shooting it.

 

[everallm]

@FlyPenFly

Don't worry about shooting this in your CZ P-01, the torture testing this went through for NSN classification waaaaay exceeds any issues the ammo could cause.

 

[macadore]

So basically what we have here is a .380 in a 9mm case with a somewhat higher velocity.

I didn’t see what the velocity was, but in the seventies you could buy ammo like this with a velocity around 1400 fps. That is somewhat hotter than the 380. At that velocity, I don’t think under penetration would be an issue. It fed fine in my S&W M59.