Brownells GUN KOTE vs TEFON MOLY bake-on vs Cerocoate.

[Float Pilot]

Thinking about redoing the slide on a scratched up MKIII Hipower. Any know if the Telfon bake-on coating from Brownells is any better or worse than the old GUN KOTE bake-on and how do they stand up to a Crerocoat finish ???

Of course they probably will not send me either since I am in Alaska and we have a hard time getting baking spray, much less paint...

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod1150.aspx

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...-prod1145.asp

 

[Naphtali]

Is any of the three products usable for I.D. of barrels; and is any of the three products usable for lock work? I refer to these products' ability to both protect metal and to provide self-lubricating surfaces. These uses would be particularly useful during a winter like we're having in central west Montana - that is, extreme cold with lots of snow mixed with freezing rain. While I would not expect these finishes to last years in these conditions, lasting the winter would be a godsend.

 

[DT Guy]

The Teflon-Moly is 'OK' for durability, but nothing like CeraKote (which is still paint, just a very durable paint.)

My HP's are wearing CeraKote here:






Larry

 

[Float Pilot]

Very nice.
Those wood grips are pretty thin. Who made those and the black ones...

I need to figure out how to remove the old black epoxy type finish from mine before I drive it up the road. I have rust coming up from under the factory finish in one place.

 

[BBBBill]

Is any of the three products usable for I.D. of barrels....

My experience says no. The buildup would be too thick, possibly causing dangerous increases in pressure. They would provide protection to the lockwork, but I wouldn't use it on the mating surfaces of the hammer/striker and sear. Those are precision fit surfaces and the paint buildup could create problems as well as chip off under pressure. Better choice would be a good coat of paste wax.

 

[Drail]

NOT on a barrel or internal parts. I have used the Brownells bake on "paints" and they were about as "durable" as the paint on your car (not very). Paint is paint. My choices on finishes are Parkerizing, bluing, or hard chrome. Costs more - lasts longer.

 

[DT Guy]

Very nice.
Those wood grips are pretty thin. Who made those and the black ones...

I need to figure out how to remove the old black epoxy type finish from mine beforeView attachment 228944 I drive it up the road. I have rust coming up from under the factory finish in one place.

The wood are Herrett's, and the black were Navidrex; they've been changed out for Herrett's also, now.

Larry

 

[Float Pilot]

Are those wood Herritt's almost as thin as the Navidrex? Was there any overriding reason the replace the Navidrex? I was seriously looking at buying a set.

 

[boom boom]

Napthali,
Regarding protection of bores, be aware that any coating might permit rust to form underneath it without you being able to see it (unless you have a borescope). That is why you should clean the bore of fouling as well as it acts like a coating. That being said, sentry systems has a moly bore coating that also works for internal parts. I use it for old milsurps triggers to slick them up. It does require a different cleaning style (no metal bore brushes etc.) and has the virtues and vices of moly lubricant in general. Hope this helps. You might try Boeshield for protecting the externals of your hunting rifles which seems to do fairly well for people in the Northwest.

 

[DT Guy]

Are those wood Herritt's almost as thin as the Navidrex? Was there any overriding reason the replace the Navidrex? I was seriously looking at buying a set.

No, they're not quite as thin as the Navidrex, but they're much more comfortable (to me, of course) because they're thin in the right places without making the grip so nearly flat, which is how the Navidrex felt to me.

Larry

 

[Float Pilot]

Hmm... Now you have me thinking about calling Steve Herrit and forgetting about the Navidrex. I am rough on grips though, since I wear heavy clothes due to my region and carry every day. Thin wood might be asking for a crack.

 

[Float Pilot]

I wonder what the Birdsong BLACK-T is made from ? Just another paint or something else?

 

[Sun Tzu warrior]

I wonder what the Birdsong BLACK-T is made from ? Just another paint or something else?

Somethig else........
Here is a write up.
http://www.snipercentral.com/walter-birdsong-black-t-green-t-finish/
Tyler and Walter Birdsong, live and finish the firearms, as well as many other industrial parts, about 7 miles from me. Black-T is neither Teflon, or paint.
I have only had magazines, and various parts coated by them because turn around time can be longer than I wish to part with my firearms.
They have to completely disassemble, remove whatever finish is on the gun, coat each piece, (including springs) then the parts are sort of baked . After that reassemble, then test fire each gun for function. Everything is coated, except the ID of the barrel. This is why it takes so oooooo long. I have seen them expedite an M-16 for a $300 up-charge. IIRC turn around on that one was 3-4 days.
I will say this, the magazines they have done for me could be stored in salt water, and I wouldn't worry about them one bit.
STW