Browning Hi-Power vs. Cz-75
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earlthegoat2
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The CZ is a fine pistol but the Hi Power is just plain sexy. Nice, svelt lines. Awesome grip. Very good reliability in the MKII and MKIII generations.
railroader
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I have owned both but I seem to shoot CZs better, Mark
I own the CZ75 and frankly the basic look of the browning is very very similar. However, I don't have the pleasure of owning the Browning. Purely based upon looks, the Browning is truly one of the most beautiful pistols made, period. If the Browning is as reliable as the CZ, you might want to go for it if it's not too much more expensive for your budget. It's about 2-300 dollars more generally if purchased new.
But it really is one of the great looking pistols. FYI, I , with hundreds of other owners can say that their CZ pistols have been perfect; and hundreds of others can say they have been nearly perfect. You can get a new one and send it to this one person (not in top of head at moment) and get a really good trigger job for around 100 bucks. There is a single action mod and mod for both single and double actions of the CZ. So it might be the best buy of the two. It's truly a competition type pistol.
But it really is one of the great looking pistols. FYI, I , with hundreds of other owners can say that their CZ pistols have been perfect; and hundreds of others can say they have been nearly perfect. You can get a new one and send it to this one person (not in top of head at moment) and get a really good trigger job for around 100 bucks. There is a single action mod and mod for both single and double actions of the CZ. So it might be the best buy of the two. It's truly a competition type pistol.
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SharpsDressedMan
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The Hi Power is a bit sleeker, and it seems easier for me to hit the safety (mine is MkIII with ambi safety) on the Browning than the CZ when in cocked and locked mode. The CZ is as bit larger, and the reach on DA can be a bit much for small hands. They both are beautifully made and finished, and very sleek in appearance and nice handling. Mine are equally accurate. While the CZ is a classy gun, I find myself carrying the Browning more often.
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JTQ
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One cannot answer this question without sending you the Stephen A. Camp's wonderfully informative site.
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ-75 or BHP.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ-75 or BHP.htm
SharpsDressedMan
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"CZ hands down. If only because it has a functional safety."
Huh. I thought the Browning had a safety, too............................................
Huh. I thought the Browning had a safety, too............................................
geigersd
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I love my BHP! It's sleek, functional, and reliable. Easy to field strip and clean.
sidheshooter
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Somewhat OT, but that phillips is gorgeous!
(but I'm a bit more a CZ-75 guy).
(but I'm a bit more a CZ-75 guy).
earlthegoat2
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I think this statement is a reflection that the BHP safety is somewhat small on the earlier models and does not have a very positive feeling on and off.
That said however, my HPs safety is of the extended MKII variety and has never came off accidentally and is easier than 1911s or CZs to disengage. It will stay on even when it is carried in the waistband with no holster.
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I can't believe it is close!
The CZ is...well, nice. OK, its double action, well designed, chunky, more complicated, less ergonomic; relatively, hardly a classic. IS the CZ sleek and sexy? I think not. When it comes to the CZ, lets just be friends. There's nothing too wrong with it, but it is no BHP.
The CZ is...well, nice. OK, its double action, well designed, chunky, more complicated, less ergonomic; relatively, hardly a classic. IS the CZ sleek and sexy? I think not. When it comes to the CZ, lets just be friends. There's nothing too wrong with it, but it is no BHP.
earlthegoat2
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I guess I dont see this as an advantage or disadvantage. If you like cocked and locked then why would you ever want DA and vise versa?
Runningman
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For a non polymer fighting 9mm.... get the CZ-85 Combat Duel Tone DA/SA, add a $8.00 16# Wolff recoil spring and your done. You have your DA/SA trigger in addition to the frame mounted safety. So you have options on your carry mode. The CZ-85 Combat is the best of the bunch IMO.
Cheaper than a BHP. CZ-75/85 are generally more accurate than the two BHP I've owned. Don't really care for the magazine disconnect on Browning Hi Powers. Out of the box BHP have way to heavy of a trigger so they need work right off the bat.
Most if not all standard CZ-75 models use a magazine brake, the CZ 85 Combat does not. So the magazine is drop free. The CZ-85 Combat also has adjustable sights, extended mag release, over travel adjustment on the trigger, compared to the CZ-75.
The CZ 85 Combat also does not use a firing pin block so the lack of extra linkage makes for a sightly better trigger out of the box than a standard CZ-75B or CZ-85B.
Cheaper than a BHP. CZ-75/85 are generally more accurate than the two BHP I've owned. Don't really care for the magazine disconnect on Browning Hi Powers. Out of the box BHP have way to heavy of a trigger so they need work right off the bat.
Most if not all standard CZ-75 models use a magazine brake, the CZ 85 Combat does not. So the magazine is drop free. The CZ-85 Combat also has adjustable sights, extended mag release, over travel adjustment on the trigger, compared to the CZ-75.
The CZ 85 Combat also does not use a firing pin block so the lack of extra linkage makes for a sightly better trigger out of the box than a standard CZ-75B or CZ-85B.
billybob44
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I have not shot a Browning HP. I do own a CZ PO-1, and LOVE it. Mine was bought NIB before the last National Election, so it was reasonable priced-up about $200 now, from what I paid.
I have not shot a Browning HP. I do own a CZ PO-1, and LOVE it. Mine was bought NIB before the last National Election, so it was reasonable priced-up about $200 now, from what I paid.
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earlthegoat2 said:
While I prefer C&L, I have worked for agencies that required patrol to carry the duty sidearm with the hammer down. So, with the CZ I can (could have) make the Chief happy while on patrol duties yet still use the same pistol C&L while on "the team" or for competition.
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I have both, and would be hard-pressed to choose. I don't carry typically, so that's not much of a consideration for me. I find I shoot the CZ a bit more accurately, but the HP is no slouch.
That said, lately I've been thinking of parting with the HP. No real reason, just a bit tired of it and thinking of picking up something in its place (possibly a new FNX).
That said, lately I've been thinking of parting with the HP. No real reason, just a bit tired of it and thinking of picking up something in its place (possibly a new FNX).
the Browning to look at and for the feel
the CZ if you plan on using it for any serious purpose.
the browning (P-35) is beautiful, but the slide is too light and moves too fast in recoil to hold up to heavy use. the CZ is a product improved P-35 with a better slide/frame interface and thumb safety
the CZ if you plan on using it for any serious purpose.
the browning (P-35) is beautiful, but the slide is too light and moves too fast in recoil to hold up to heavy use. the CZ is a product improved P-35 with a better slide/frame interface and thumb safety
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