I tried carrying a bhp for ccw but found it impractible because of my paranoia of carrying cocked and locked in the waistband or with a pager pal holster. I was also paranoid of droppinng the hammer and having a nd. Am I just overly paranoid ? Any suggestions on a good carry method? Good holsters with thumb breaks maybe. I had a Galco paddle with a thumb break but it didnt conceal worth a darn.
Browning high power for ccw
- Thread starter mokster
- Start date
- Status
jonnyc
Member
I, and others, have been very happy carrying the HP C&L in a Bladetech IWB holster.
P95Carry
Moderator Emeritus
I carried my BHP Practical for quite some while - in a Horseshoe leather OWB rig. I did have slight reservations as here we have just the main safety - no grip safety to back things up.
My assessment for safety was based on the feel of the safety itself - and mine which happens to be an ambi - has a very positive detent - and so requires a little force to move. Easy when needed but far from easy to catch accidentally.
I'd suggest you make same assessment and if yours has good and obvious ''snick'' from detent then good to go. If sloppy and indecisive then I'd think again - and maybe have it seen to.
My assessment for safety was based on the feel of the safety itself - and mine which happens to be an ambi - has a very positive detent - and so requires a little force to move. Easy when needed but far from easy to catch accidentally.
I'd suggest you make same assessment and if yours has good and obvious ''snick'' from detent then good to go. If sloppy and indecisive then I'd think again - and maybe have it seen to.
TheDutchman
Member
I carry my Hi Power in a OWB Fobus holster and a Tucker Leather Cover Up.
steveracer
Member
I switched the safety.
New safety will be harder to take off, if you get the one from C&S. Works very well, and feels more "positive". I used to find my safety off when I put my gun away each night. Thought it was the holster. Turns out it was the ambi and my shirt. One sided safety for me now!
New safety will be harder to take off, if you get the one from C&S. Works very well, and feels more "positive". I used to find my safety off when I put my gun away each night. Thought it was the holster. Turns out it was the ambi and my shirt. One sided safety for me now!
PCRCCW
Member
Carrying any Cond 1 gun is a matter of keeping the gun....very stable in the holster first off......like "rock solid" in place. Concealing it is a given..if you cant hide it then you need to look at new style of cover garments or a new style/location of carry. Always get a holster with a hi back/body shield/sweat guard......fill in the new snazzy name for it here. This helps from getting poked and most makers can mold the safety in the "on" position in the leather.
Hope this helps........Shoot well.
Hope this helps........Shoot well.
saltydog452
Member
- Joined
- Aug 1, 2004
- Messages
- 1,707
'Good snick'
P95Carry,
Your post #5, this thread, mentioned the thumb safety on your BHP. Who makes it and why did you chose that one over other after market thumb safeties or options such as adding a larger shelf on the existing BHP safety lever?
Opinions vary, and like to hear yours before I have the existing BHP safety modified
Thanks,
salty.
P95Carry,
Your post #5, this thread, mentioned the thumb safety on your BHP. Who makes it and why did you chose that one over other after market thumb safeties or options such as adding a larger shelf on the existing BHP safety lever?
Opinions vary, and like to hear yours before I have the existing BHP safety modified
Thanks,
salty.
PCRCCW
Member
C&S or Cylinder and Slide make ALOT of BHP stuff. Check them out for safeties and other companies too.
Shoot well.
Shoot well.
Remember, even if the safety comes off somehow, that's not equivalent to an ND. The trigger still has to be depressed, which is not going to happen in a good holster, or out of a holster with good handling. Now if the safety has a habit of getting bumped off I would consider that a problem, but I wouldn't be afraid of the remote possibility of it happening.
The skinny nose of the BHP make sit a good choice for a full sized IWB... cocked and locked is plenty safe if the trigger is completely covered.
pauli
Member
i fail to see why a gun in condition one 'needs' to be concealed more than any other.
PCRCCW
Member
Pauli......It doesnt. Any gun being carried with a permit needs to be concealed.
My post was regarding the stability of the holster, safties can be worked off if the holster has any movement in it. Thus, its more critical than a Cond (?) gun.
I dont see in my post where it "needs" to be concealed more than any other gun!...........
I was commenting on his Galco problem and it doesnt conceal his gun. There are plenty of holsters that will work better.
Shoot well.
My post was regarding the stability of the holster, safties can be worked off if the holster has any movement in it. Thus, its more critical than a Cond (?) gun.
I dont see in my post where it "needs" to be concealed more than any other gun!...........
I was commenting on his Galco problem and it doesnt conceal his gun. There are plenty of holsters that will work better.
Shoot well.
pauli
Member
it's a matter of grammar. apparently, what you meant and what i read were two different things.
the subject of the sentence is "any cond 1 gun."
each instance of "it" in the next sentence, technically, refers to the last specified subject - in this case, "any cond 1 gun." hence, i read "concealing [a condition 1 gun] is a given." you seem to have meant your statement more broadly.
with that settled, i think i see the other issue that's causing a miscommunication:
you're apparently making your statements in the context of local law, which i didn't catch at first.
jonnyc
Member
There is no real safe way to "decock" a HP. C&L is also a lot safer than carrying hammer-down on a loaded chamber and then thumbing the hammer back. Best is C&L, second best is hammer down on empty chamber.
Dorrin79
Member
One way around the issue is to get the FN SFS HiPower - mine serves as my EDC (in a HBE holster very similar to the one pictured above) and is a very fine shooter.
I used to carry a 'normal' MkII HP C&L and never was concerned about it, or had any issues.
I used to carry a 'normal' MkII HP C&L and never was concerned about it, or had any issues.
Marshall
Member
I have three HP single actions, I carry them cocked and locked quite a bit. Well let me rephrase that. I carry the HP's quite a bit and when I do, they are always cocked and locked. I have never had the guns come off saftey.
Last edited:
This type of pistol should be carried cocked-n-locked, which is as safe as anything else, if done properly. There is no reason why one should ever need to lower the hammer on a live round, and it is imprudent to ever leave the weapon in such a condition. Concealment issues aside, all you need to carry safely in Condition One is a holster which won't let your pistol flop out onto the ground, and which envelopes the trigger guard, which prevents accidental or negligent discharge of the weapon while it is holstered.
Now for the fun grammatical nitpicking... Pauli, you are incorrect. In the sentence you quoted (which is, admittedly, a mess) -
- "any Cond 1 gun" is NOT the subject. The subject of the sentence is the word "Carrying." The phrase "any Cond 1 gun" serves here as an adjective to the subject "Carrying." The predicate of the sentence is the word, "is." The object of the sentence is the phrase, "a matter." The rest of the sentence is adjective to the object, "a matter." Thus, stripped of all adjective, we have the sentence, "Carrying is a matter."
Now for the fun grammatical nitpicking... Pauli, you are incorrect. In the sentence you quoted (which is, admittedly, a mess) -
- "any Cond 1 gun" is NOT the subject. The subject of the sentence is the word "Carrying." The phrase "any Cond 1 gun" serves here as an adjective to the subject "Carrying." The predicate of the sentence is the word, "is." The object of the sentence is the phrase, "a matter." The rest of the sentence is adjective to the object, "a matter." Thus, stripped of all adjective, we have the sentence, "Carrying is a matter."
- Status
