budget auto help

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What i need is a reliable, efficient semi auto that will not break the bank or the gun when fired. Idea is to use any old cheapo ammo you can get as surplus. Even 20 year old 9mm surplus.

Taurus makes a decent gun rated for +P useage.
Ruger is supposed to be strong and reliable.
Smith adn Wesson is supposed to be good and reliable.

What does a man with a smaller budget look at?
 
Try something in the Ruger P series. They are strong as an ox. Durable as a rock. and Dependable as gravity. Of course I own one. a P97.
 
Used glock 17.

One is for sale right now in my local paper for 300 bucks with night sights.

Might have to shop/dig around but deals like this are a plenty.
 
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I must agree with mainebear, i own a p95dc and i love it! i have never had it jam up or break. great guns, meant for one thing: pull trigger = BOOM:D
 
S&W Sigma. They've extended the $50 rebate and two free magazine offer to April. Which means you can get a new gun with a great warranty and four mags for about $275 net.

--wally.
 
+1 Ruger. For more of a pocket concealable, accurate, reliable, and backed by a no hassle lifetime warranty, consider the Kel Tec. If size doesn't matter, Ruger.

There are other choices of course, bazillions. CZ is affordable. Makarovs, though I don't know about the current ammo availability thing. Taurus autos like the Millennium series are affordable and decent. But, I'll stand with my choices. I have a KT P11 with probably 11,000+ rounds through it now, trouble free and a Ruger P85 with maybe 3K through it so far. I mostly shoot what I carry and I don't carry the Ruger much. The Kel Tec doesn't like the 147 grain stuff. The Ruger doesn't care what you feed it. It'll eat anything.
 
+1 for the sigma. If the hard and long trigger pull is not a deal-breaker for you, you get a cheap, reliable, firearm with a lifetime warranty.

If you can find a knife or light kit in stock and use the rebate you can score not only the sigma but 4 16 round mags, a case, and a knife or light for about $290 after rebate.
 
what im looking for is basically somethign that qualifies as a duty type sidearm. id like a longer barrel, so if i had my way and had the money id hold out for a long slide 1911 with a 6-7 inch barrel.
All id really be doing is a shoulder holster under my sweats while jogging, and somethign with me when my loving family sends me out to identify stray dogs in the yard at 2 am.

Im used to a long trigger pull, my ml has a .7 inch travel before it actually releases, so no real issue i guess.
 
Ruger.

You really don't need +P ammo, especially if you are on a budget.
 
I own a P95, they are durable and reliable guns but more than a little crude and bulky... I paid about $300. I also own an FNP-9, it is a million times more balanced and ergonomic, it holds one more round and weighs less than the Ruger, and so far (700+ rnds) it has been equally reliable... I paid $450.

You get what you pay for I guess, and I greatly prefer shooting the FNP. It just feels to me like an HK at a Ruger price, YMMV.

I've had my eye on a CZ for a while, I understand they are great pistols for about the same price as the FN. I'll probably own one soon.

Please do yourself a favor and avoid the Sigma unless you are on an absolute shoe string budget... and even then you should try and pony up for the Ruger.
 
Poke around for a used gun. Maybe a little holster wear, but the trigger will be better than new and most of the bugs worked out.

Consider a buyback Sig 225 for ~$300.
 
Used is the way to go for a value minded shooter. Used guns are frequently traded in to finance different toys, divorces, or simply because the owner no longer wants them, not because they are defective.

Among the used guns, Glocks are very reliable and durable. The Beretta 92 series is another reliable and durable gun on the used market. Both will be priced in the $300-$400 range, usually around $350. Both are available as LEO trade-ins, with a lot of price dropping finish wear, but very little actual use. Both are available in 9mm and will eat almost any ammunition.
 
i second the ruger p series, like the kp95, enev brand new they are at a great price and they are accurate, reliable guns. i owned one and i had no accuracy, reliability issues at all.
 
Bezoar, you mentioned Tarus and 9mm ammo. Ever given a thought to the PT92? It has a fairly long barrel like you mentioned in your second post. I have one and my son-in-law has one. They both shoot the heck out of Blaser and Monarch ammo which are the two cheapest we can find. I keep it loaded with Win. HP around the house but switch to the cheapo stuff to plink. Never had problem one with either one of them. The grip is a little fat for my hand size but not too bad as I can shoot it accurately. If 1911's are your preference I saw a brand new Rock Iland for $389 the other day.
 
cdnninvestments has NIB Ruger P95's for 250. Shipping should be about 12 dollars, and FFL transfers run about 20-25, so for 287 or so you'll have a brand new gun with a reputation for reliability, and two 15 round mag's.
 
Bezoar, I carry a full size 1911, so obviously weight is not a real issue to me, but a long slide, wow, better have a shoulder holster. I do agree with the Ruger, but if you could find a Rock Island 1911 in your price range, why not.
 
I would also recommend a Ruger. Inexpensive and reliable.

I bought my P90 used, so maybe the trigger was smoothed out before I got it, but sometimes I think the "gritty" trigger of a Ruger is a little overstated. Again, I've never purchased a new Ruger, so maybe mine was broken in before hand, but the trigger on mine is pretty good.

EDIT: On second thought, maybe I'm just used to bad triggers? I've never felt the SA trigger of a 1911, which is supposed to be quite an experience...
 
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