Buffalo News story on possible NY .50 ban.

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Fella's, I don't even know where to start when it comes to pointing out the inaccuracies in this article... Makes me sick. Anyway, the author's email address was given with this wonderful Buffalo news report, I think you know what to do... :uhoh:

Peoples supports call for ban on .50-caliber rifles
By LOU MICHEL
News Staff Reporter
5/28/2005

A local state assemblywoman is teaming up with gun-control advocates Friday to try to ban a .50-caliber rifle they say is custom-made for terrorists.
The 41/2-foot, 37-pound steel rifle was likened to a bazooka or shoulder-fired missile launcher capable of shooting down commercial aircraft during takeoffs and landings.

"As a person from a family of avid hunters, I know we have to protect the rights of hunters and target-shooting sportsmen, but this weapon has no place in society," said Assemblywoman Crystal D. Peoples, D-Buffalo.

Earlier this week, the Assembly passed legislation that would ban the rifle from being sold to civilians. The bill is now before the State Senate.

"We're trying to create momentum for the Senate to pass the bill in late June and to educate the public that there's a military weapon available to civilians," said Andy Pelosi, executive director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence.

To underscore how the gun is accessible to almost anyone, Pelosi brought one to a news conference in downtown Buffalo and said it was purchased through an Internet transaction.

"They have to go through a gun dealer, but they can be sold on the Internet and at gun shows. You just have to be 18 years old," Pelosi said. "It's a weapon of war."

Peoples said there already are enough weapons available for illegal purchase on city streets and another, particularly one with this type of armor-piercing fire power, should not be available.

"We're not at war within our own borders," she said.

Bryan Miller, spokesman for the gun control group Freedom States Alliance, said the .50-caliber gun in the hands of a terrorist could be disastrous if it were fired at one of the country's thousands of chemical plants.

"This gun has a range of about 11/2 miles, and it takes one person with one of these weapons to cause a disaster," Miller said.

Miller - whose brother, an FBI agent, was murdered by a shooter in Washington, D.C., in 1994 - said only a small percentage of people support the right to own .50-caliber rifles, which first came onto the market in the 1980s.

"In a civilized society, citizens and legislators accept responsibility to define the lines of what's acceptable and what's not, and I would say this is one of those weapons that is not acceptable," Miller said.

Budd Schroeder, a member of the National Rifle Association's board of directors and a Lancaster resident, said claims by the ban's supporters are exaggerated.

"Unless it is a fully automatic machine gun, the chances of taking down an airplane are at best remote," said Schroeder, who is also board chairman of the New York State Shooters Committee on Political Education. "It would seem that the favored weapons of terrorists in the United States have been airplanes and rental trucks."

He added the bill also would ban rifled-barrel shotguns.

"The rifled barrel allows for shotgun slugs to be shot with greater accuracy, meaning more humane harvesting of deer, and this would turn honest hunters immediately into felons by possessing these guns," Schroeder said.


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He added the bill also would ban rifled-barrel shotguns.

I hope this is true and not just NRA rhetoric.

I'm a firm believer that the best thing for the RKBA movement would be for a state to screw up and ban a rifled shotgun or a 30-30 'cop killer rifle' to get the large hunting contingent into the fray.
 
The 41/2-foot, 37-pound steel rifle was likened to a bazooka or shoulder-fired missile launcher capable of shooting down commercial aircraft during takeoffs and landings.

Well, heck! Why not just liken it to a tactical nuclear device and skip all the rinkydink stuff?
 
If a terrorist is going to shoot down a plane, they are NOT going to go to a gun shop, pass the NICS check and use a firearm registered to them. Just like 99.999% of the criminals are not going to purchase their assault rifles legally and commit a crime.

Let's get real. Don't ban the guns, ban the criminals. STOP making it so easy for these terrorists to enter our country. Before 9/11, all someone needed to enter the country was a sponsor. What's worse is 20/20 did a report on handguns and found that it is easier for a middle east transplant to get a pistol permit in NY than someone who's been here since the sperm stage.

Sorry. RANT RANT RANT.

I'm over it now...

Berek
 
""We're not at war within our own borders," she said."

Inaccurate.

As she returns to her think tank to analyse the effectiveness of the particular tactic on the rkba battle plans... I bet they even have big maps on the walls and unit diagrams, with the relevant battles in each state...


Cracked butt, if history repeats itself, and it seems that it often does, they won't attack common rifle calibres, they will molest the types of actions. ...Australia...bolt-action only... And then work on calibres and accessories... "Only snipers need optics"...
 
Miller - whose brother, an FBI agent, was murdered by a shooter in Washington, D.C., in 1994 - said only a small percentage of people support the right to own .50-caliber rifles, which first came onto the market in the 1980s.

And in the last 20-odd years, they've been used in how many crimes and terrorist acts, exactly? What, you can't think of any? Me neither.
 
Gun control activists fail to realize:
You can ban the weapon, but people who intend to do serious harm will still get them whether you like it or not -- if a terrorist is going to come to America to carry out his or her attack, the odds of them even being able to obtain it from a gun shop are pretty slim. If they're really going to do something, I'm sure the weapon would be smuggled into the country or something along those lines. :banghead:
 
Gun control legislation is not about guns or terrrorists. The arguments they use have no merit to the knowledgable and are often only based on emotion and fantasy specifically crafted for the sheeple. It's about control!
 
I figured that 60 mistakes (minutes) re-ran the story on the .50 cal. because something was coming up to which they wanted to spread some influence.

Propaganda generaly is timed to something ,and this is probably it.
 
They really need to stop talking about banning these things. Because I can't afford one, and actually I don't even want one, but every time they start talking about another ban I get this silly thought in my head that I need to go buy one.

Also, as a licensed dealer, I'd love to hear what the ATF has to say about how Pelosi picked up a .50 on an internet transaction.
 
To quibble, he *said it was purchased through an internet transaction. He could be lieing, or maybe he exchanged an email at some point and thus calls it e-commerce. Why? So that it can be called internet transaction, so that people can believe the BS in the article.

When the lies are this transparent the objective they serve is pretty clear too.
 
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