Buffer retainer on an AR

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The buffer retainer on my AR decided to fly away.
Is it a necessary part for the function of the rifle or can I get away with firing it until the replacement arrives?
 
Edited to delete incorrect response. Badger is correct below. :D


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Red
 
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The buffer won't move forward and block your rifle from opening. I had the same problem when I forgot to restrain the plunger while taking my AR-15 apart years ago. The bolt carrier prevents the buffer from going forward. The plunger is just there to keep it from flying out when you shotgun the rifle. If you remove your bolt carrier as well, you'll have a hell of a time. Just make sure the bolt carrier is there and you'll have to restrain the buffer as you close the upper onto the lower. Also, when you open up the receiver, you must reach in and restrain the buffer again as the gun opens.

Definitely order up a new spring and plunger and perhaps a spare. I've got one sitting around, methinks. If you live near a gun store or gunsmith, they might have one also.

edited to remove disagreement with edited post above... ;)
 
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Badger...

You are correct. I had to check my AR just to make sure. :D

I dunno what I was thinking this time!

Good Shooting
Red
 
I found why the retainer came out.
The hole it is meant to reside in is now oval shaped.
I'm guessing it poked up a bit higher than spec and got some sweet lovin from the bolt carrier and buffer.
Can someone post a pic of what the hole for said retainer should look like and perhaps an estimate of the depth the hole should be.
Mine is oval an looks too shallow to accomodate the retainer and spring.
 
Can't do a picture now, but it will APPEAR To be oval because it's drilled on a curved surface. In reality, they don't cut an oval slot and they don't make any oval drill bits I'm aware of. Look at the hole from directly above and/or stick something you know is round in the hole. It should be round. At any rate, it's VERY easy with a standard buffer tube to start to back it out and let the spring and retainer fly. It's a different story with carbine tubes. These tubes must be indexed and often they are indexed too far out to sufficiently stop the buffer retainer from flying out. If your buffer smacks the retainer enough times it could, I suppose, wobble the hole larger and let spit out the retainer.

I've learned that carbine stocks need to be 'tuned' and cut the the exact right length if they fall in that 'sour spot' where they are tight on the buffer retainer JUST before they are in the proper place for you to tighten the nut. A file and a few minutes of careful modification can solve that problem. Me, I like my Carbine buffer to be as short as possible so that the stock retracts to nearly flush with the nut. That's just me. I'm a stickler for those kind of things.

BTW, Scavanged pen-springs work passably for buffer retainer springs. Shhhh, don't tell anybody.
 
MLC,
Most likely your buffer tube backed out just a bit. Is it a collapsible stock or a standard one?

I normally use a little blue locktite when I but a buffer tube on.

Jeff
 
I had a fixed CAR stock but switched to an A2.
There is no way that the new retainer and spring will be held in place by the A2 buffer tube.
I think that the old retainer is mashed into the bottom of the hole hence my request for what a normal one looks like.
I noticed that the new HK M4 roll pins their buffer retainer in place, wonder why:rolleyes: .
I think that I am going sans retainer until I get a smith on the scene I'll post a pic of the ugliness later.
 
Hmmm, if your new A2 stock fails to do the job, you might want to get another A2 stock that will! I can't imagine that your lower was made so out-of-spec, I suggest that your buffer tube might out of spec instead. When I get home, I'll check on that and see what the length should be. Maybe I'll get you a picture too. BTW, what is the make and aproximate manufacture date of your lower?
 
Okay, here's what a new one looks like:

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