BUG-OUT Bag suggestions.

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I'm looking for a inexpensive, quality bug-out bag. (I'm using a luggage bag for my MREs, medkit, flashlight, water, etc. right now... but it won't be comfortable to lug around)

Please give me a few suggestions of good gear. And minimum supplies to pack.
 
For inexpensive, a higher quality school type backpack I guess. Anything from a "tactical" supplier will cost a lot more, but be more rugged.
 
I'll be getting into this topic this weekend on another project I am working on for THR.

But I will toss out some things to think about as you are pondering this question:

1.) What is the most probable situations that you anticipate will cause your need to "bug out?"
2.) Where will you be bugging to in ______ situation?
3.) What resources will be available to you at that destination?
4.) What rescources do you anticipate to be in short supply or entirely lacking at your destination?
5.) What duration do you anticipate that you will be at that location?
6.) When do you anticipate returning to your home?
7.) What will your needs be in the probable environment when you return to your home?
8.) What will your needs be in the worst case scenerio when you return to your home?

I've been down the road of needing to throw together a number or things at a moments notice to "bug out" before. Inevitably, you will forget something, or in my case, a LOT of somethings doing it that way. Even with planning you will find that you did not anticipate every need you will inevitibly face-- but this line of preparation should have you in a much better position to improvise.

Destination and Duration will be your most pressing questions to answer first. I "bugged out" anticipating being away from my home for 3 days. It turned out to be 8 weeks.

Hopefully, I will have this addressed as best I can from my personal opinion this weekend. I don't want to just slop some words on a post without giving your question the consideration it deserves.


All the best!

John
 
john,

I thought the purpose of a bug-out bag was to be available for any situation, no? Whether it be:

1. Natural disaster
2. Martial law
3. Zombie midget clowns taking over

Shouldn't it consist of the bare minimum?

First aid
Hunting rifle
Rope
Extra clothes
Minimal camping equipment
MREs & Water (perhaps a purifier)
Extra ammo for primary handgun/long gun

Please inform me of anything I may have missed.
 
Go "camping" a night out in the woods, with the bare necessities. Every time you say "d*** I should have brought that" write it down. Go "camping" the next weekend with the stuff you figured out you needed to bring the first time and continue the process. Do this for a month or so and you will have packed everything that YOU NEED and not necessarily what everyone else thinks you need.
 
Burnside,

Yep, but there's just no way to plan for every type of scenerio, and some scenerios don't make sense to prepare for in your geographical location.

Forgive me that my brains not working at an all time high at the moment (long day at work), but I'll say a couple things that may make sense if I can get it out in a halfway legible fashion:

Your minimal equipment list is pretty sound. I'm cutting an pasting it just to add a couple thoughts:

First aid --- Absolutely. And even now, I need to get a better one. Typically the cheap ones are well-- lacking.


Hunting rifle-- Hunting/defense rifle is a good idea. Like was mentioned in another thread, its going to take a lot of duration to get you to the point where you are hunting, but it never hurts to have a rifle capable of pulling double duty with defense.

Rope-- Absolutely!

Extra clothes-- Yep-- this is, however, where duration kicked me in the nether regions. I took with me 3 days of clothing. It was no where near enough. About a week later, I was able to get to my house briefly and get all the things I WISHED I had taken. I mentioned duration due to this. If it looks like you aren't coming home anytime soon, it wouldn't hurt to take a few more changes of clothes-- they WILL get nasty.

Minimal camping equipment-- Probably couldn't hurt. This sort of goes towards destination in my mind. A lot of people seem to have an idea of where they would go in essentially any situation (Dad's/Uncle's/Grandfather's/etc. farm for instance.) I'd definately have some camping oriented things such as lighters, a fold-up "space" blanket, signaling device of some sort, etc. But I don't know that I'd pack such things as a tent. Space in the BOB will become very precious, and you will have to do a lot of giving and taking.

MREs & Water (perhaps a purifier)--- Absolutely

Extra ammo for primary handgun/long gun-- Absolutely.


A question to ask, if I may?

Is this a BOB that you have packed and ready to go within your home? Or will this be something that you keep in -- say-- the trunk of your car? Each type of kit would have different goals.

I refer to my "In the back of my Jeep" bag like a lot of folks do: My GMO bag (Get Me Home Bag). Everything in it is oriented towards the possibility of becoming stranded, or dealing with civil unrest. Its purpose is to simply get me the 30 miles I typically travel from my office to my home in the event I find it necessary to get home fast, or find problems trying to get home.

I keep in it a First Aid Kit, a tool set, some duct tape, a tire pluging kit and a cigerette lighter operated air compressor (I actually got a flat once during Katrina on the WAY to getting a flat repaired!)
I also keep a case with a Vector AK-47 underfolder along with 120 rounds of ammunition in 30 round magazines in there.


At home, I have a Bug out Box as well as a Bug out Bag. This is a large PVC lockable box that has a variety of necessities in it. The Bag has a certian degree of redundancy with the box, but in significanly lesser quantities due to the anticipation of needing to haul that on my back if it were needed. The box is incredibly handy though. With some effort, I can get it down to my jeep in just a minute or two. It slides perfectly in the truck space and essentially takes up the entire trunk portion.

One reason that I mentioned that it isn't feasible to plan for every concievable event is because of the value of the space you will have.

I personally don't have a NBC gas mask or suit in my vehicle because we are a VERY LOW potential terrorist target here, nor is there any industrial complex that requires this type of planning. However, my wife DOES need one in her car (and I should be kicked for not having one in there now!) My wife is a preschool teacher in Bogalusa, LA. About 5 years ago, a chemical plant in Bogalusa had a massive spill that literally shrouded the entire city in noxious fumes. Everyone was either confined to houses or evacuated immediately. Due to this panic, my wife had a LOT of problems getting out of the city. While she had no ill effects, a lot of people did. The lawsuits are still going on.

I am HOPING I can devote some time to this issue as the primer that Hso and I are working on progresses. I also realize that I sort of muddied the issue that was originally addressed by this, and for that, I appoligize.

I'll leave off with this:

Its always a good idea to consider the potential natural processes in your geographic area as well as spending some time becoming aware of the industrial complexes that surround you or where you must pass nearby.

While Tsunami is not going to be a concern to me, I would definately consider that in Coastal Washington. Volcanic eruption is not a direct concern to me, yet someone within a few hundred miles of Yellowstone should aquaint themselves with that little spots activites over the last few years. That's what I mean about the geographic concerns of a BOB.

I appologize to you all for the rambling in this post.


All the best!

John
 
TBN,

BOBs have been discussed repeatedly in the past here in S&T. Perform a search within S&T to read all the different camps on them. There's a wide range of opinions on what is needed. Disregard most of it and tailor your BOB for your situation and your environment and keep focused on real events that you will have to deal with. BTW, leave the goofy fantasy criteria out of any serious discussion on preparedness-
3. Zombie midget clowns taking over
. Considering what just hit central FL and has in the past you've got enough to worry about without pulling the tin foil over your eyes.

Here's a start for prior discussions.
http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=1713932

http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=1713933
 
The best advice I can give about packing a BOB is to assemble it with the intent of using it to travel somewhere, not as a means of survival in and of itself. Basically the BOB is a way to have essential supplies in an accessable package, it does not replace a secure retreat (which has at least a structure for shelter).

Like JWarren said, don't try to have equipment for every concievable contingency. I have seen many of BOBs that the owner would have to hunch over to carry. These people are going to end up dumping alot of this equipment after walking a mile to two.

On a related note, pack two BOBs. One should be for your vehicle, and contain heavier gear and more consumable supplies. The other should only contain essentials needed to get to your destination on foot. It is also a good idea to have back ups for the some of the more important stuff in the walking bag in the car kit (things like an extra knife, flashlight and water filter).

Ideally the car bag should be a fixture of your trunk.

Remember to pack warmth, at least a space blanket and a pullover. Even living in a place like Florida, luck will have it that things will go south the one week that the temperature drops below freezing.
 
Change of underwear and a roll of aluminum foil. :D

Rural destination: Go with Tank Mechanic's idea.

Urban, warmer weather, lasts about a week:

Get a harmless-looking bag, like a superb quality school backpack. No rollers, and not duffel-style... you might need to carry it for a few days. Mil-surp, though it usually fits the bill, might send some excitable people into a tiff about the appearance.

Get/make a spare wallet with enough cash (actual amount depends on your personal preferance/means), with copies of your insurance, driver's license, concealed carry permit, and any other necessary items (including family pictures, contact info, etc.). Have a decent amount of change in a thick leather pouch that won't make much noise if you need to be quiet. Also toss in a set of spare keys for the house, office, car, whatever.

A change of clothes, specifically well-made ones that aren't going to rip or do anything unexpectedly. Once again, the more innocuous, the better. Nothing brightly colored, nothing flashy, but BDUs are out of the question. Put some good socks in there, too. An extra pair couldn't hurt.

A couple bottles of water, stored in outside pockets, can go a long way. They can be refilled at drinking fountains or other clean sources, and are strong enough to last a couple of weeks if need be. Energy bars, as a backup, and multivitamins can get you by for a little while, but buy and eat real food with the cash whenever possible. I tried eating nothing but Clif bars for a week, and I wanted to die. An MRE is not a bad idea either. If you use tobacco in any form, keep about 4-5 day's worth.

A half-roll of toilet paper and a Wal-Mart bag inside the tube can keep you clean for a few days, if during that time toilet paper or proper facilities can't be used or found. Eliminates another little-thought-about, but nasty problem that can be avoided.

A swiss army knife/Leatherman/Gerber tool, extra set of glasses (if you wear them), pen and small pad (even Post-It notes), pay-as-you-go spare cell phone (charged and activated, with enough minutes) with charger, and a good, long book. These are all invaluable, and I use most of these every day even without having to bug out. They're things that don't take up much space, don't weigh a lot, but if you need them, you need them badly and immediately. Best to have and not need...

Finally, if you carry, a spare rig including gun, ammo and magazines (twice what you'd normally need), holster, etc. Cleaning kit not necessary. Make sure you can wear it 20 hours a day for five days, completely concealed (including not printing), that you can wear it with your spare set of clothes, and that you can draw easily with your backpack on. This is not the time to advertise you've got a gun. If you're relocated to someplace public, you might not have the chance to take it off unless you're in the bathroom. If it's off your body, it makes it harder to draw and easier to steal while you sleep. Plan on having it on you for a solid week. If you truly need a rifle, there will be plenty lying on the ground.

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A friend saw this list, once...
Him (jokingly) "Looks like if my apartment building caught on fire and I was asleep naked, I'd be okay if this is all I grabbed..."
Me: "I know. That's why I wrote it."

Zombies are not going to attack. Foreign armies, unless they ally themselves with Canada and/or Mexico, do not have the capability to invade. Acts of God in the form of inclement weather, building fires, and terrorist attacks/scares are far more likely. That's what this list is for... if you've got to be gone for a week, possibly on foot, and have to leave everything else behind.
 
Older small frame mountaineering bags are really good. I've got one that's swiss, and built much like the old korea issue mountain pack. That said, the old US mountain pack in khaki canvas is not a bad choice, if you find a decent one. It doesn't have the "tacticool" look people associate with GI gear.

I keep a modular bugout system. Each gun has a box and web gear. (or will soon enough) Right now the kit for my garand is most complete. Each "gun box" is an ammo can, preferably of a type and nationality to match the weapon (easy to associate with the weapon in a hurry). In it I carry half to 3/4 complement of ammo, cleaning kit (kit in my buttstock ripped...) GI bore cleaner, broken shell extractor, extra clip, plus a few strippers of special purpose ammo.

From there I have the web gear, which is WWII style stuff. 80 rounds on the belt, m1916 holster for my 1911, my bayonet, My bandage pouch with bandage/minikit plus a second medpouch jammed full of MRE accessory packs. (TP, Matches) a cheap compass (hopefully to be replaced with an M2 soon) on the suspenders (H style, no Y junk here) canteen, and sometimes a flashlight.

The gunbox for the M1 lives in "minpack" which is some kind of korean issue pack. It also has an E-tool (shovel) an MRE, a coleman can stove (VERY useful, I also keep a SVEA 123 in "maxpack"... if you see one buy one.) matches, a pocket knife, and an LED flashlight.

If things are really foul I grab the minpack, and "maxpack" which is a larger pack (usually the mountain pack, but I repacked it in a rain resistant pack to carry on my flatbed for a few weeks) that the minpack can be hooked to or thrown in. It contains three days clothes, two more MREs my made in india knockoff of an M2 (in brass... wisht they'd built it better) , 1.5 liters of water, quartermaster knife, matches, lighter, 2D maglite, Portable toiletries kit, some fuel for the SVEA 123, the SVEA 123 (again, buy one of these, or a copy. they are the simplest, ruggedest, smallest, most reliable, and longest in service single burner field stove in the world. ) a tin of McCann's oatmeal, multivitamin, a mag of CCI shot cartridges for the .45, a calculator, pen, paper and ink, a monocular, nore TP, some haywire, old GI wool blanket, an old motorola am transistor pocket radio, plus a handheld CB, and a hatchet.

I don't have but want a magnesium firestarter, a cheap wheelgun to leave in each pack, a filter straw, field surgery kit, and/or uscav first aid kit. I need to get my 40 channel handheld fixed. (i also leave a channel 14 only handheld in each of my trucks, as well as the onboard radio. proves useful.) finally... A flare gun. I want to put one in each of my vehicles. CDNN or SOG has HK flareguns for $40 a pop. they just don't say whether or not the shells are available.

Rope, lives behind the seat of my truck with the log chain and the cable choker. both my trucks... the kit on them gets more intricate, but suffice it to say, i'll get where I'm headed so long as i don't hit a landmine.
 
A search of this forum using the term Bug out Bag or Bail out Bag will bring up about 3 years worth of threads on this subject.

Let's try not to revisit the same subject time after time.

Jeff
 
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