jbauch357
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I just added a pint of Pendleton to mine - a nip of whiskey could go a long way for settling the nerves in an extended shady situation...
Building a 72-hr survival pack... what do you put in yours?
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Food, water, leatherman, my 10/22 and a 100 round box of CCIs, toilet paper, an extra pair of underwear, a pair of socks, and a set of BDUs (ill already have on a good pair of boots
). For 72 hours you only need a few cans of food, and you can get by with 2 gallons of water easily. All in all your looking at a medium size duffel bag.
Its all you need and more just slows ya down. Although a radio to listen to some county music would come in really handy.
). For 72 hours you only need a few cans of food, and you can get by with 2 gallons of water easily. All in all your looking at a medium size duffel bag.Its all you need and more just slows ya down. Although a radio to listen to some county music would come in really handy.
divemedic
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I keep it in a backpack in my truck. I figure that I can throw out anything I don't need if it slows me down. But if I need it and don't have it, I am without the proverbial paddle.
DarkCharisma
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Damn. For 72 hours I'd like to be able to fit ALL of it in a backpack or smaller. Some of these lists would take up all 6 feet of my truck bed. 
You could go 72 hours here on cash alone. So if you're lazy, just pack cash.
You could go 72 hours here on cash alone. So if you're lazy, just pack cash.
divemedic
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I have actually needed or used each and everything in my BOB in various deployments. Cash won't always do it, and credit cards don't work in the area of the disaster. (no power or phones= no atm, credit card, or electronic transactions)
Again, each item is there because I have been in situations where they were needed. (In the Katrina area, I would have done almost anything for a spare pair of boots and some foot powder. Take care of your feet.) The entire thing fits in a large backpack, and weighs in at 40 pounds.
Again, each item is there because I have been in situations where they were needed. (In the Katrina area, I would have done almost anything for a spare pair of boots and some foot powder. Take care of your feet.) The entire thing fits in a large backpack, and weighs in at 40 pounds.
jbauch357
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Same here - everything I have fits in a single backpack weighs in at under 40 lbs (one of these days I'll actually weigh it).
Also I go walking (she calls it hiking cause of the hills in our neighberhood) with my girlfriend every day for 2-4 miles, and always wear the pack so I get used to the weight and make sure things are organized in a manner that makes the pack comfortable to wear. Soon as hiking season starts up again I'll be taking real hikes, which are going to be exceeding 15 miles in a day - and I'll be wearing the pack for those also...
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A glock .40, two extra mags, a box of tampons (for bullet wounds) beef jerky, 4 cans of chew, and 2 gallons of dehydrated water.
.38 Special
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<picking fight>
I've been thinking about the "urban legend-ish" tampons-for-bullet-wounds deal and have decided to call B.S.
In my time as a paramedic I saw a handful of bullet wounds and never once saw anything that looked like it could be addressed by stuffing a feminine hygiene product into it. Either the holes were far too small (entrance wound) to admit a tampon -- I'm not planning on measuring but I'm betting the average tampon is more than a half-inch wide -- or far too large (exit wound, sometimes) for anything but a trauma dressing. Moreover, tampons are not sterile. Granted, neither is the average bullet wound, but there's a reason why any professional applying non-sterile dressings to a wound is risking his license. And finally, there are products designed expressly for dressing open wounds. Why would you ignore them in lieu of cheap tubes of cotton? I think it's simply become another cool "operator" type deal.
</picking fight>
<edit> Dehydrated water, OTOH, definitely makes you a man among men!
I've been thinking about the "urban legend-ish" tampons-for-bullet-wounds deal and have decided to call B.S.
In my time as a paramedic I saw a handful of bullet wounds and never once saw anything that looked like it could be addressed by stuffing a feminine hygiene product into it. Either the holes were far too small (entrance wound) to admit a tampon -- I'm not planning on measuring but I'm betting the average tampon is more than a half-inch wide -- or far too large (exit wound, sometimes) for anything but a trauma dressing. Moreover, tampons are not sterile. Granted, neither is the average bullet wound, but there's a reason why any professional applying non-sterile dressings to a wound is risking his license. And finally, there are products designed expressly for dressing open wounds. Why would you ignore them in lieu of cheap tubes of cotton? I think it's simply become another cool "operator" type deal.
</picking fight>
<edit> Dehydrated water, OTOH, definitely makes you a man among men!
SwordRapier
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I don’t know why I fell compelled to respond to this part of the post. I guess we can call it insanity.
I have read an account where an army nurse (female) in WWII confiscated tampons from some riflemen. They had been using them to clean their rifles.
I have read an account where an army nurse (female) in WWII confiscated tampons from some riflemen. They had been using them to clean their rifles.
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"dehydrated water."
ha, that had me laughing out loud.
ha, that had me laughing out loud.
Deus Machina
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Actually stocking my bag the last couple days, and for a 3-day bugout bag. Keeping it slim, and under the assumption that I can't spend those days in a hotel.
Water.
Change of clothes and socks.
Tiny two-man tent (one-man if you're only planning for yourself.
Lightweight bedroll.
Water.
6 meals, canned or dried. Forage when you can, buy what else you can. Be hungry in between. Two meals a day will keep you from starving.
Water-resistant toilet paper.
Water.
Shop rags, to use as washclothes, signal flags, firestarters, toilet paper if that runs out, etc.
Towel. (I am a cool frood, I know where my towel is. )
Water.
Basic first-aid kit. Added needle, thread, blister treatments, Pepto pills, and FOOT POWDER. Trust me on those last two.
2 Bic lighters.
Spool of fishing line, hooks, couple weights, few small lures.
Emergency (that silver stuff) blanket.
Few stakes.
100' of paracord.
Camp mess set. (pot, lid/pan, stand for those, and knife/fork/spoon set that all fold together)
Water.
Collapsible jug, funnel, and iodine tablets to collect water. (I'm in Florida. If I have to bail out, it will be during a hurricane. As the root cause or just because Florida's a spiteful state.)
The Zombie Survival guide (Hey, you never know. Besides, it's useful for general purposes.)
Boy Scouts of America handbook.
Leatherman tool.
Water.
2 50-round boxers of Thunderbolt .22LR
20 rounds 7.62x54r, on strippers.
2 AK magazines, in pouches on the front strap. (1 counts as extra, assuming I don't have one in the gun)
1 magazine of 9mm JHP. 1 mag already in the gun.
Water.
Now, the guns:
S&W 469 9mm--may change, but this is already on me.
Henry lever-action, .22LR/L/S.
Mosin Nagant M44 OR AK. (Both if bailout is because of violent circumstances, one if not, neither if a hotel/family is arranged and I'm walking there.)
Ruger 22/45 MkIII (optional).
Water.
A flask of the STRONG liquor of choice. Preferably plastic--it should be able to eat through metal.
Couple packs of cigarettes--I don't smoke, but my friends do, they're good nose plugs if you have to clean a boar or such, and they're GREAT trading fodder.
$50 or more in $1's and $5's.
Flashlight (headband style would be better), handheld radio, cell phone, and batteries for them.
Water.
Oh, and don't forget water.
Yes, it sound's like a lot, but I'm an old Scout. You can pack a lot in a good pack if you pick small and light parts, pack for ONLY what you can reasonably expect to encounter (expect the unexpected, to an extent), and stay to good ground. I remember I used to hump this stuff and more around on five- to ten-mile trails for the weekends for fun.
If at all possible, get reservations at a hotel, with family or friends, throw a quarter of this in the closet and the rest in the car and go there.
And don't forget your water.
Whoo! Now I'm gonna cut and paste this for the thread tomorrow, and Sunday, and...
Water.
Change of clothes and socks.
Tiny two-man tent (one-man if you're only planning for yourself.
Lightweight bedroll.
Water.
6 meals, canned or dried. Forage when you can, buy what else you can. Be hungry in between. Two meals a day will keep you from starving.
Water-resistant toilet paper.
Water.
Shop rags, to use as washclothes, signal flags, firestarters, toilet paper if that runs out, etc.
Towel. (I am a cool frood, I know where my towel is.
)Water.
Basic first-aid kit. Added needle, thread, blister treatments, Pepto pills, and FOOT POWDER. Trust me on those last two.
2 Bic lighters.
Spool of fishing line, hooks, couple weights, few small lures.
Emergency (that silver stuff) blanket.
Few stakes.
100' of paracord.
Camp mess set. (pot, lid/pan, stand for those, and knife/fork/spoon set that all fold together)
Water.
Collapsible jug, funnel, and iodine tablets to collect water. (I'm in Florida. If I have to bail out, it will be during a hurricane. As the root cause or just because Florida's a spiteful state.)
The Zombie Survival guide (Hey, you never know. Besides, it's useful for general purposes.)
Boy Scouts of America handbook.
Leatherman tool.
Water.
2 50-round boxers of Thunderbolt .22LR
20 rounds 7.62x54r, on strippers.
2 AK magazines, in pouches on the front strap. (1 counts as extra, assuming I don't have one in the gun)
1 magazine of 9mm JHP. 1 mag already in the gun.
Water.
Now, the guns:
S&W 469 9mm--may change, but this is already on me.
Henry lever-action, .22LR/L/S.
Mosin Nagant M44 OR AK. (Both if bailout is because of violent circumstances, one if not, neither if a hotel/family is arranged and I'm walking there.)
Ruger 22/45 MkIII (optional).
Water.
A flask of the STRONG liquor of choice. Preferably plastic--it should be able to eat through metal.
Couple packs of cigarettes--I don't smoke, but my friends do, they're good nose plugs if you have to clean a boar or such, and they're GREAT trading fodder.
$50 or more in $1's and $5's.
Flashlight (headband style would be better), handheld radio, cell phone, and batteries for them.
Water.
Oh, and don't forget water.
Yes, it sound's like a lot, but I'm an old Scout. You can pack a lot in a good pack if you pick small and light parts, pack for ONLY what you can reasonably expect to encounter (expect the unexpected, to an extent), and stay to good ground. I remember I used to hump this stuff and more around on five- to ten-mile trails for the weekends for fun.
If at all possible, get reservations at a hotel, with family or friends, throw a quarter of this in the closet and the rest in the car and go there.
And don't forget your water.
Whoo! Now I'm gonna cut and paste this for the thread tomorrow, and Sunday, and...
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You should get a baggie to hold all the Thunderbolt duds. They might come in handy as fire starters or something, if you can get 'em lit.
HTH!
HTH!
Deus Machina
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Heh. The boxes are in a zip-lock, I can just use that.
Really, I've shot 1250 of these (got them on sale), and haven't had a failure to fire in my guns. They're not the most accurate and I've had a couple failures to feed (oversized bullets! They've jammed in the chambers of both my .22's.) but all the ones I've fed have fired.
They'll be replaced by Mini-Mags soon, though.
Really, I've shot 1250 of these (got them on sale), and haven't had a failure to fire in my guns. They're not the most accurate and I've had a couple failures to feed (oversized bullets! They've jammed in the chambers of both my .22's.) but all the ones I've fed have fired.
They'll be replaced by Mini-Mags soon, though.
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Two rolls of toilet paper. One for yourself, and one to trade with someone who forgot theirs. After 72 hours, he'll trade everything else you need.
It's ALL good.
"Guns&More", that is a very good idea. In Nam we'd gather up ALL the unclaimed TP packets after peeling open a can of C-rats (yeah, I was there early ) It was as good as cash, and mammasans even swapped it for use as kotex. Don't ask "swapped it for what?" HEY ".38Spl", since tampons are compressed they go lots further than kotex, which goes further than Pampers. Have some of each for a stay OVER 72. Sterility?! Who cares, when you're the guy bleeding to death? A spray disinfectnt, and a shot of Swift-shot-clot, then an expanded tampon and a wrap of duct tape or a bungee-cord & you're good to go! Are we talking 72hr survive, or 72hr E&E? I was part of a two-man 72hr mission to deploy land-sensors along the Ho Trail in Au Shucks valley, 3/67. We were deployed with our BOBs -- we called them "bail-out bags" -- for setting up MacNamara's invisible defense line. We deployed realistic-looking "turds" which were actually seismic sensors. Wanting to find trucks coming and going, maybe carrying G.I.MIAs into the north. The prep was, no food for 24hrs, so no trace of smell. 9 canteens water at 3 per day. Drink 'em and drop 'em. Quinine tablets. There were no effective purification tabs available. UHF transponders and a pickup point down the river. Yes, a GI can survive quite well on 3 canteens a day. Hard to get used to just laying there and p1$$1ng yourself, tho. Had no I.D. except phony dog-tags and nametag on the greens. Hey "Duelist" be sure to use J.D. Single Barrel. Those round bottles tend to roll out from under the brush and give away your position. As for "Cash or credit?", all of the registers at the local W-mart went down at the same time, due to "The wrong wire" by the NCR man. No sweat: the registers could still take inventory and accept cash, and "Everyone has cash!" So there was hardly a problem. "Gold / silver" are only for major upheavals, not for 72hr blitzes.
"Guns&More", that is a very good idea. In Nam we'd gather up ALL the unclaimed TP packets after peeling open a can of C-rats (yeah, I was there early ) It was as good as cash, and mammasans even swapped it for use as kotex. Don't ask "swapped it for what?" HEY ".38Spl", since tampons are compressed they go lots further than kotex, which goes further than Pampers. Have some of each for a stay OVER 72. Sterility?! Who cares, when you're the guy bleeding to death? A spray disinfectnt, and a shot of Swift-shot-clot, then an expanded tampon and a wrap of duct tape or a bungee-cord & you're good to go! Are we talking 72hr survive, or 72hr E&E? I was part of a two-man 72hr mission to deploy land-sensors along the Ho Trail in Au Shucks valley, 3/67. We were deployed with our BOBs -- we called them "bail-out bags" -- for setting up MacNamara's invisible defense line. We deployed realistic-looking "turds" which were actually seismic sensors. Wanting to find trucks coming and going, maybe carrying G.I.MIAs into the north. The prep was, no food for 24hrs, so no trace of smell. 9 canteens water at 3 per day. Drink 'em and drop 'em. Quinine tablets. There were no effective purification tabs available. UHF transponders and a pickup point down the river. Yes, a GI can survive quite well on 3 canteens a day. Hard to get used to just laying there and p1$$1ng yourself, tho. Had no I.D. except phony dog-tags and nametag on the greens. Hey "Duelist" be sure to use J.D. Single Barrel. Those round bottles tend to roll out from under the brush and give away your position. As for "Cash or credit?", all of the registers at the local W-mart went down at the same time, due to "The wrong wire" by the NCR man. No sweat: the registers could still take inventory and accept cash, and "Everyone has cash!" So there was hardly a problem. "Gold / silver" are only for major upheavals, not for 72hr blitzes.
Readyrod
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72 hrs?
Take whatever backpacking equipment you would use for the same time period, cash, credit cards and bank books, personal papers, weapon if needed, radio, and baby wipes. Don't forget the wife and kids. Oh and maybe the mother in law too.
Have the car prepped for action.
Read the Listening to Katrina sticky. He has some of the best disaster advice ever given.
Take whatever backpacking equipment you would use for the same time period, cash, credit cards and bank books, personal papers, weapon if needed, radio, and baby wipes. Don't forget the wife and kids. Oh and maybe the mother in law too.
Have the car prepped for action.
Read the Listening to Katrina sticky. He has some of the best disaster advice ever given.
DHJenkins
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Based on my current location & available re-location/re-supply options:
Ninja glock
Lambas bread
Elven cloak
A small pouch of Krugerands
1 paperclip
Oh, and some TUMS.
Ninja glock
Lambas bread
Elven cloak
A small pouch of Krugerands
1 paperclip
Oh, and some TUMS.
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