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Does Virginia require AR's to be registered?
Statewide, no. Some locations have prohibitions against carrying loaded with more than 20 rounds, but that is it, AFAIK.Does Virginia require AR's to be registered?
No, but Virginia has a weird law (passed after the Kansi shooting at the CIA) that requires citizenship (or permanent residence) for the purchase of an "assault weapon." But an "assault weapon," for this purpose, is defined as a gun equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine capable of holding more than 20 rounds, equipped with a folding stock, or "designed to accommodate a silencer." Dealers got around this, in questionable cases, simply by selling the gun without a magazine. It's never been clarified whether merely having a threaded barrel makes a gun "designed to accommodate a silencer." Nor whether a telescoping stock is a "folding stock." This whole thing is more or less a dead letter. At one time, I had to show my passport to buy a stripped lower receiver (because of a misinterpretation by certain dealers, and an abundance of caution on their part), but no longer. The law is still on the books.Does Virginia require AR's to be registered?
That's what the official guidance from the ATF says, and what the "80%" industry is going by. However, it seems to me that drilling just the transverse hole for the selector would be fine, since the top of the lower receiver would remain solid, and the hammer/trigger could not be installed. The ATF has a long history of making pronouncements, and then backing away from them. For example, a full-auto bolt carrier used to be a no-no, but then Colt pulled some strings and now full-auto bolt carriers are more or less standard on new guns. I seriously doubt that the ATF would make an issue of this for an individual.My understanding is that any metal removed from the FCG area would be crossing the line to make it a firearm.
Interesting concept. It might be hard to weld a steel trigger to a normal aluminum trigger guard. Maybe silver solder would work.IMO the dummy trigger would be the hardest to mimick... I suggest cutting the trigger bow (lower/visible part) off and wedding it by it’s bottom tip to a steel trigger guard with the top reveal filed to fit against the ceiling of the trigger window.
My understanding is that any metal removed from the FCG area would be crossing the line to make it a firearm.
That's what the official guidance from the ATF says,
I made no claims; just gave a word of caution and my understanding (stated as such)Your source of information please.
Which is why I specified welding the trigger to a STEEL trigger guard. I know milspec is aluminum but steel can be found or made.Interesting concept. It might be hard to weld a steel trigger to a normal aluminum trigger guard. Maybe silver solder would work.
. Once again I made no claims beyond my own understanding and don’t like feeling bullied to do someone else’s homework for them... but since I seem to be trapped:Please provide this direct citation, with copy of their determination.
Earlier in this thread:Please provide this direct citation, with copy of their determination.
Not only that, but they cut the hole for the selector detent & spring, which is more difficult than drilling the hole for the selector itself.Tactical Machining sells “80%” lowers with the FCG inlet partially cut. They mill the rear takedown pin boss mortise into the lower.
This whole debate is beside the point as the OP clarified that he does not need to keep it a non firearm... he is free to leave his firearm in whatever inoperable condition he chooses.I would caution against drilling the selector hole if you live in a place where you really need a LEGAL non- firearm.
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It’s not about the complexity of the cut it’s a matter of whether it has been deemed part of the FCG... rear takedown lug and selector detent are not... the 3 holes in the side and the pocket in the middle are.Not only that, but they cut the hole for the selector detent & spring, which is more difficult than drilling the hole for the selector itself.
It’s legal for you to manufacture your own AR-15, fully functioning
I apologize for giving the wrong number... 2012-10 was referenced near what I was reading and I assumed it was the number... the true doc is atf 2015-1. https://www.atf.gov/file/11711/download You’ll see it is talking specifically about procedures to an ar15 and the portion I quoted at the bottom of page 3@bluejeans - here’s ATF Rul. 2010-10,
Nowhere within this document does it mention AR-15’s, nor machining limitations for fire control group inlets.
You’re grasping to defend an unsupported claim, or trying to deceive. Not sure which.
ATF Ruling 2010-10
Don’t you think these hoplophobes you are referring to (non gun people who want to hold a fake gun before a real one) would just take it at face value when you tell them “this isn’t a function rifle” when you hand them a rifle that has no Bolt in it? Then they can still manipulate the trigger, selector, and the charging handle. Just remove bolt from BCG. A person truly as afraid of guns as your referring to would be just as likely to be comfortable with this object you hand them as they would be with a realistic looking dummy made from real AR parts.