building a mosin sniper

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so pretty soon ill have my very own mosin, pics to come, and im going to build it into a sniper and ive got just a few questions. (the rifle itself was an ex-sniper)

do you guys think there will be any problem in the foreseeable future picking up the vintage look scope/mount? i see a pretty fair amount on ebay usually, but ive not been looking for long enough to tell if supply ever goes dry.

will i be killing the rifle's value by drilling this scope mount to it? after all, id just be unfilling holes that were filled by the refurbers.

i know there are enough mosins out there to keep the prices down now, but you know how it goes, they will run out sometime. maybe not soon, but when that time comes id like to have a rifle that can sell.

thanks guys, any other tricks and tips or advice welcome.
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general concensus is that it is not taboo to bring an ex sniper back to spec. but be carefull doing it. nothing ruins, both the value and useability of a sniper like muffed up mounting holes.

also, make sure you know what kind of mount you will need, and what kind of scope. theres atleasr 3 tpyes of mounts and 2 types of scopes. im not a sniper guy. so some one else can tell you the prospects for future availability
 
do you guys think there will be any problem in the foreseeable future picking up the vintage look scope/mount?
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Buy one as soon as you can. Surplus items (guns, ammo, scopes, etc) are old items that are no longer made. Someone had a bunch in warehouses and sold them off. Once they are gone, that's it. No more. You snooze, you lose.

Not sure if these are correct for the rifle, but Centerfire has some:

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=612
 
I bought a repro scope and mount off Ebay that was made in the Ukraine and sipped from there to me. The scope and mount are of very good quality and very true to the original. You will also need a bent bolt. I had a gunsmith do my drill and tap work for me. Sighting it in was easy and I didn't have to do any shim or grind work to get it zeroed. Here is a good website for sighting in your rifle when it is done http://www.mosinnagant.net/sniper%20section/mosin-nagant-sighting.asp.
I had close to $500 in mine after it was done. You could probably find one done for you cheaper.
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TIMC

I'd like to know where you got the bent bolt, if you're willing to tell.

thanks for your help, on this mosin post and my previous ones.
 
--The PU scopes and mounts aren't going to run out for the simple reason that most are modern repros. The original ones, which can be hard to tell apart, are rarely seen even on the faux snipers built by the importers.

--You'll be killing any inherent value, and I wouldn't do it with a Finn or rare one. But it's not what I'd consider a bubba job, assuming it's done right with a 91/30. I'd suggest doing it with an ex-sniper, which are all over the place right now. That won't lower the value at all. The holes are already there, they just need to be redrilled.
 
when i got my Mosin Sniper last week, i found out i had to grind the scope mount. i got it done today so tomarrow hopefully ill get the chance to get it zeroed. its not dead center, do to the fact the, i assume they are set screws, set screws for the mount screws stick up to far and they wont go any farther. but its center enough i have a good field of view. so im not to worried bout it. i would send you a link, but TIMC beat me to it...:)
 
ex-snipers

"I'd suggest doing it with an ex-sniper, which are all over"

what do you think a guy should pay for one, i didnt think they were all that common, as compared to the general mosin population.
 
TIMC

I'd like to know where you got the bent bolt, if you're willing to tell.

thanks for your help, on this mosin post and my previous ones.
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There are a few places. I don't remember where I bought mine, I have had it for a couple years. You can try one of these.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/Boltman/Boltman.html
http://www.buymilsurp.com/store/cart.php?cat=Mosin+Nagant+Rifle+Parts
http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1920z91/30 This place also has the scopes and mounts.
 
Considering the Cost

Don't spend too much making a sniper when they are already made for you by some enterprising importer. I got one of the refurbished "snipers" with correct dates and manufacture with PU scope for $319.95 from SOG not long ago. There are other dealers out there that have some too.
 

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in case the time ever came that i wanted a more powerful magnification on the rifle, are there other scopes that fit in the vintage mounts? maybe something that goes up to 9x?

thanks again
 
i dont know of any scopes that fit in the vintage mounts. most 1 inch tubes are too large to fit in the mount. i think the tubes are something like 26.5 mm on the scopes.
 
what do you think a guy should pay for one, i didnt think they were all that common,
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$200 at most. They were actually very common. Unlike other nations, the USSR cranked out the sniper rifles. There were hundreds of thousands made. I believe they were returned to standard format after the war in order to shift the PU scopes over to newer firearms.

Even the intact, original PU snipers with matching scopes, which go for a mint, are far more common numerically than most Finnish subtypes. The price has more to do with "Enemy at the Gates" than with inherent rarity.
 
cursed hollywood. so $175 shipped isnt so bad then? its in pretty good condition. all matching numbers but one line out. the bore is still really good on it. izzy 44.
 
id just liek to say soviet Sniper doctrine isnt comparable to Modern US sniper doctrine

Modern US doctrine is basicly the sniper, and spoter as a unit. used to take out targets at long range, from concealed positions

ww2 US doctrine had snipers doing unit based work, but not on the soviet scale

Soviet snipers are closer the US SDM's in that they operate as part of a unit ( ww2 soviets on the company level as i understand) and provide that "reach out and touch some one" assitance. used more for taking out machine gun nests, entrenched/garisoned enemy and of course, counter sniper work.

since the soviets intended the snipers to be assistants of the infantry, they needed alot of snipers, because hell they have alot of infantry. just to try to explain why there are alot of sniper mosins. even by Per capita type thought. more snipers per infantry for the ww2 reds
 
That's an excellent point. It's a doctrine that was carried on through the CW. To some extent they learned the importance of front line marksmen from the Finns during the Winter War. At that time Soviet tactics were very crude and disorganized. They relied on politically motivated masses of charging troops, none of which had much training with their firearms. The Finns, using Jaeger squads of fast-moving light infantry, literally hunted the Soviets down with superior marksmanship and mobility.

US snipers, post WWII, are traditionally deployed as tactical weapons, with great care for precise pinpoint strikes.

This is why a "sniper rifle" used by modern US military forces is going to be a completely different animal from a "sniper rifle" used by the east block.
 
the moment of truth comes guys, and id like THR's approval. so to recap: an ex-sniper, matching #'s, with accessories for under 200 shipped, bore in excellent condition, all else VG+.

reaffirm me on my purchase here, gonna make a great shooter, gonna be fun to build, gonna be a good looker at the range right?

a thumbs up or down will do here.

God bless the high road, dont know what id do without you guys.
 
the moment of truth comes guys, and id like THR's approval. so to recap: an ex-sniper, matching #'s, with accessories for under 200 shipped, bore in excellent condition, all else VG+.

reaffirm me on my purchase here, gonna make a great shooter, gonna be fun to build, gonna be a good looker at the range right?

a thumbs up or down will do here.

God bless the high road, dont know what id do without you guys.
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If that is what you want then go for it. I'm sure it will be a fun project, I know mine was. Sure you will spend a little more than buying a repro already done but then you don't get the fun of doing most of the work yourself and that was worth the extra for me.

It will get a lot of looks at the range I have people ask about mine all the time especially when they see me popping targets at the 200 yard berm.
 
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