Burris Fastfire Mount for Mark II

[dwstone1227]

I just recently bought a Burris Fastfire III from Volquartsen and mounted onto my Ruger a Target Mark II (22 caliber) using the Volquartsen purchased picatinney rail mount. This was originally a used gun purchase equipped with a Burris variable scope mounted. It weighed 65 oz. With the Burris Fastifire it now weights only 43 ounces. It is a whole lot easier to shoot with 1/3 less weight.

However, the picatinney rail mount puts the Fastfire too high above the gun in my opinion. I would very much like to mount this Fastfire as close to the Ruger as possible. Does anyone know of an alternative mount for the Fastfire? I think the MadMac Precision Tactical Dove Tail mount may be one option for my Ruger Mark II. Will that work? Is there a better option? I appreciate the help.

I see this as my first red dot of many more to come. With age, open sights just don't work as good as they once did. I am not missing that scope and I am not willing to go back to open sights.

Dwstone1227

 

[yamahawarrior89]

I bought and used this one.

Have not had any problems with it. You could probably find it on other sites as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000UV3ZPG?pc_redir=T1

 

[susieqz]

are the IIs that different from IIIs ?
on my 22/45, i used the burris mount that replaced the rear sight, keeping
the fastfire as close to the barrel as possible.

 

[wally]

the FF II and III use the same mounts and are the same size, but the III has a top replaceable battery so you don't need to remove the sight to change the battery, although the battery costs ~2X+ more than the 2032 battery (computer clock) used in the II.

The rear sight replacing mount will lower the sight maybe 1/4". Is this worth ~$45 to you?

 

[dwstone1227]

Yes, I am willing to pay $45 to lower this a 1/4 inch.

 

[susieqz]

i tried to post a pic of my set up, but the site won't let me .
by using the mount that replaces the rear sight the ff becomes part of the gun.
when you use a rail, it's just an add on.
this is the best set up you can have on a mark 3.
if the dovetail on the mark 2 will accept this mount, i recommend it highly.

 

[toivo]

+1.


I used that one to mount a Fastfire III on a Ruger MK II that wasn't drilled for a rail. It worked very well. I took it off because I wanted to use the sight on a S&W 41 -- I'm too cheap to buy another sight.

One caution: The mount will probably leave marks on your gun's receiver. Just small ones -- no biggie, but I was a little bummed because my MK II was a pristine stainless one. You could put something under the mount to protect your gun -- just a little bit of tape or paper or something. It's actually only an issue if you ever want to take the sight back off. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

 

[dwstone1227]

My Mark II is pristine as well. It is a stainless steel target model. But my old eyes don't see open iron sights. This looks to be the Brownell part:

BURRIS FASTFIRE RUGER MARK I-III MNT
118-000-202WB
Ruger Mark I, II, III Mount
Mfr Part: 410329
$47.99

If this solves my problem, I am willing to suffer a couple of scratches. I really want this red dot.

Dwstone1227

 

[susieqz]

that sure looks right.
i can't hit anything with iron sights.
with this set up, i get, at 25 measured yards:
1'' benched
2'' two hand
3'' duelist.
you can spend 4 times as much n not get better than this gun n dot.

 

[toivo]

My Mark II is pristine as well. It is a stainless steel target model. But my old eyes don't see open iron sights. This looks to be the Brownell part:

BURRIS FASTFIRE RUGER MARK I-III MNT
118-000-202WB
Ruger Mark I, II, III Mount
Mfr Part: 410329
$47.99

If this solves my problem, I am willing to suffer a couple of scratches. I really want this red dot.

Yeah, that's the one. It will work. What it left on my gun are what I wouldn't exactly call scratches -- more like shiny spots worn into the matte stainless finish. No big deal, and again, you could probably use a little paper or plastic shim to protect the gun.

 

[dwstone1227]

Thanks for all the help. I now have my solution.
Dwstone1227

 

[gwpercle]

I know what you mean about iron sight's not working when you get "older".
My Millet SP-1 tube type red dot is big and bulky on my Ruger MK II, the Burris Fast fire seems to be so much more compact. The FF-III and mount are $270.00 , a lot on my budget , but if it works well , would be worth the money.

So tell me ....how do you like the FF-III . Work well , easy to adjust ?
My days of shooting open iorn sights are over but I'm not ready to stop shooting just yet.
Gary

 

[susieqz]

the ff2 is harder to change batteries in than the ff3.
but,they last forever.
i have shot more than 8,000 rounds using my ff2.
i guess the ff3 might be nicer, but you can find a package deal. the ff2 can come with the ruger mount.
i got the 2 because i saved $40 on the deal.
i'm happy with it.

 

[dwstone1227]

I like the Burris Fast Fire III. I do not like having to push a button to turn it on, but this is a 22 and I am not planning to ever use this for self defense. For me the FF III was a first red dot purchase to see how well they work. My initial impression is positive. My impression will improve if I can get FF III mounted closer to the receiver. With the current mount (picatinney rail) the height makes finding the dot difficult. After shooting open sights for years, when I aim I seem to pull up the handgun with the muzzle high and drop the front sight down towards the target to find that front sight. That does not work with the red dot. ( At least not with this high mount.) With the red dot I now find myself pulling the muzzle of the gun up towards the target with the muzzle initially pointed down to more easily find the red dot. In short, adjusting to a red dot is not as intuitive as I thought it would be. But then getting old has not been easy either.

One of the other reasons I wanted a red dot is to use it for the training of others. Focusing on a single dot with both eyes open is far easier to teach someone than line up front and back sights with one eye closed. I see this Burris as the first of many red dots for me.

 

[toivo]

I have used both the FF II and the FF III extensively for bullseye shooting. The FF III is on my main pistol and the FF II is on my backup pistol, which used to be my main pistol. Two main reasons I prefer the FF III to the FF II:

• You can change the battery on the FF III without removing the sight from the gun.
• FF II has only auto-brightness; the FF III has auto-brightness plus three manual brightness settings.

 

[gwpercle]

Thanks for the input on the Fast Fire II and III , appreciate it .

My Millet SP-1 is going on 14 years old....I wish it would malfunction to give me an excuse to get the Burris. Christmas is coming up though ! Think I'll see what deals are to be had on one.

Gary

 

[Bearnut]

Another fan of the Fastfire here. I also favor the Burris mount which gets it down low. That's partly for looks but mostly because the taller something stands, the more likely it will get knocked or broken.

 

[wally]

I'll also report that on my oldest Fastfire (original model) the LED went out. Burris honored their "no nonsense" warranty and replaced it with a FastFire II (the original was discontinued by the time it failed) without hassles. I just filled in the downloadable form, mailed it and the failed sight back to them, and got a replacement by return mail.

 

[herkyguy]

I've got an older fastfire II on a MKIII target, with the included rail from the MKIII. It definitely does sit rather high, but I'm OK with it since it's just a plinker. But it does take some time to really figure out what hold to use to bring the red dot into view.