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Bush Landing on USS Lincoln too Costly

Discussion in 'Legal' started by TarpleyG, May 8, 2003.

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  1. TarpleyG

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    I was listening to the Today show on the way to work this morning and they had some Demoncrat congresscritter from New York on babbling about how it cost over a million dollars and delayed the arrival of 4000 sailors for a day for the president to take a jet to the ship last week.

    Luckily though, Today had a Republican (senator or congressman I do not recall) that evened out the debate.

    It really ruffles my feathers that it is perfectly acceptible to these types for a Democratic president to receive oral pleasures, by an intern nonetheless, in the Oval office, AND lie about it but for one of the most popular presidents of the 20th/21st century to fly over to an aircraft carrier on a jet instead of a helicopter they will spend millions more just to try and find some dirt where there is none.

    Anyone else concur?

    GT
     
  2. Sisco

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    And just how much did Clinton spend in eight years flying his family on around-the-world vacations?
     
  3. Atticus

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    Maxine Waters (D) California, was on CNBC last night talking about GWB's visit to the USS "Abraham" (as she called it). She wants to launch an investigation in to the matter. That woman is clearly disturbed.. if not outright insane. Thank God she is such a visible Democrat. I can't imagine even my most liberal of friends supporting someone like her. What an ijit.
     
  4. El Tejon

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    Atticus, Waters (D-Compton) was the one who stated that AK-47s "do not miss.":rolleyes: Uncle Jeff said we needed this silly woman at the School of Infantry, not Congress.
     
  5. OF

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    The democrats make me want to :barf:

    Aren't you behind on your Klan dues, Byrd? You freakin' moron.

    Waxman is just pissed about the spanking he got from Jim March. It makes him all uppity. Back in your seat Waxman, you loser.

    - Gabe
     
  6. Hawkman

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    Let's see, Klinton flies out to USS Theodore Roosevelt to make a speech: no harm, no foul. Klinton drags his entire entourage to Normandy for that fake photo op with the rocks on the beach: no harm, no foul.

    C'mon guys, let's come up with a comprehensive list of demoncrap money-wasting events and bury'em under it!:D
     
  7. Carnitas

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    I seem to remember Clintons family vacation to africa which cost got knows how much. Think about presidential security in AFRICA! That and IIRC he gave away a couple hundred million in aid while he was there.

    Dont for Get Democrat Senator John Glen's nostalgia space shuttle trip. Wonder what that cost, eh? IIRC that was a payoff for deep sixing the congressional investigation into some Clinton scandal or other.
     
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    Hawk, hey, I remember that. Was that the fake op with the stones and the cross?
     
  9. buzz_knox

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    For the first time in my memory, a president publicly demonstrated enough trust in the military to risk his life the same way many of them do day in day out with a carrier trap. Of course democrats are screaming. This only makes Bush more beloved of the military, a fact the demons hate.
     
  10. Marko Kloos

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    If you have to spend stolen tax money, a Presidential carrier landing is as good (and more entertaining) a cause as subsidizing a few dozen more crack mommies in Atlanta. They only have their panties in a bind because that tax money won't be used to buy votes from the Dolists.
     
  11. DonP

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    Desparate?

    When this is the best thing they have to throw against the wall to see if it sticks, they are in trouble. It remind me of when they were all upset about whether Reagan dyed his hair or not.

    Even my hard core liberal Brother-in-Law from Democratic Iowa country said, "Sure it's a photo op, but what a damn cool Photo op!"

    The democrats are trying to water down the effect the visit had on the middle that every election is about,. They will do just about anything to try and keep thos eimages from being seems again during the election campiagn. The funny part is the more they complain the mor eoften the media re-runs them.

    The next thing we'll hear from them is about how angry some sailors wife is that he was 20 minutes late getting to port or some such drivel.

    If the Dem's dont' get their head out of their B--- they may wind up losing California and maybe even New York in 2004. Then Pelosi can argue for an even harsher turn to the far left.

    Don P.
     
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    For the demonrats, everything is political. Whenever they do anything, it is appropriate to view it as political. They assume that it is the same for everyone; thus, when they see leadership, they think it's a political trick. After all, it's always a political trick if they do anything that looks like leadership.
    You never saw klinton make an arrested landing, and when Dukakis (sp?) rode around in that tank, everyone laughed. What really gets the demonrats' goat is that Bush was able to pull this off.
     
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    Let's hope he does it again about 2 weeks before the next election.
    The Demos would die of heart failure if he did.
    The Demos already are talking of losing 4 more Senate seats in the next election. We can hope they lose a lot more.
     
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    The Dems are just pissed because the US Military is going to vote 95% in favor of Bush. And the fact that servicemen actually respect Bush.

    Contrast this with Clintoon when he came to Lejeune for Christmas in '96. Almost all the unit commanders and Sgt's Major told their Marines to go on leave for fear that their would be some sort of incident. My 1stSgt personally made sure I turned in my leave papers;) S/F...Ken M
     
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    I think Ari just said the speech didn't cause the ship to get into port late. It arrived at it's scheduled time. It would seem the flight was also less expensive, even though the jet he flew on cost $7 per hour more to operate, The jet was faster than Marine 1=cost savings. (I don't know this as fact, it was sort of implied by Ari's statement).

    They're just grasping at straws.
     
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    As one of the pundits on Fox News said -- "He's the commander in chief. He can do this."

    For some reason I thought other Presidents had done hook landings on carriers before.

    That one action on his part probably did more to endear him to the Navy than any other thing he could have done.

    Well that and eating in the enlisted mess.

    Bush seems to understand how to connect with the most important voting block there is -- the common person. Not the person with power, not the person with money.

    I think that fact alone scares the living hell out of the Democrats because Bush is beginning to reach a voting block that the Dems always counted on, but like the Republicans, largely ignored when it came time to meeet & greet.

    Another PERFECT example of Bush's "human touch" in this manner is what he did at the Olympics in Salt Lake City. Instead of announcing the opening from a private box high in the stadium, he announces it from the stands, among the athletes.

    Then he goes and sith WITH the American team, and ends up talking with the parents and families of many of them.

    That little move on his part left the Dems pretty much speechless and quite shocked.
     
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    Day by day the Dems become more desperate, pathetic, and petty. To attack a President and Commander-in-Chief after clear and dramatic victory shows just how little these people understand, or care about, human nature (and their whole life agenda is to control and change human nature). The nation swells with pride; they sit on the sidelines and carp. They simply can't stand the fact that Bush--yeah "stupid Bush"--is able to connect so viscerally with so many Americans. They are angry and jealous.
     
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    The USS Lincoln was delayed not one bit for Bush's landing. It was totally on schedule like it has to be with all the logistics involved. It costs about a million bucks a day to operate a super carrier like the Lincoln.

    Bush's Marine helicopter does not have the range that the Viking jet does.

    Bush could have flown to Pearl Harbor which was the Lincoln's first port of call. But that would have meant flying to Hawaii on Air Force 1 (a jumbo jet ala 747) along with two C130 cargo planes caring all the Secret Service's vehicles and gear. Compared to that, the Viking flight was peanuts.
     
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    Do they forget that President Dubya served honorably--AS A PILOT--in the U.S. Armed Forces?
    I believe he's earned the right to don the jumpsuit.

    No, he's not some decorated Sgt. York.
    But he also didn't write some panty-waste letter to get out of military service, like another recent occupant of the White House did. :rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe GWB should invite Clinton for an aircraft carrier landing... just as long as he gives the order for the pilot to eject just before the approach. :D
     
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    The Dems are jealous. They know how well this was received so they have to try and attack it to make themselves feel good.
     
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    Sure...but I read that Eisenhower after he became President made it a point to never appear in uniform, to make sure we didn't have the appearance of the Commander in Chief being anything other than a civilian.

    Oh, and 30 miles offshore is too far for a helicopter? He didn't have to take Marine One, he could have taken a Sea Stallion. And he spent the night because they couldn't make the last 30 miles? Hey, I'm just asking...wouldn't want to get labeled as a "demon rat" or whatever is in vogue. :rolleyes:

    Edit: Also, all the jabs taken at Clinton for his artful dodging of military service...why doesn't the Vice President earn the same scorm?
     
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    mons meg--
    Didn't know we were talking about Veeps...how far down the food chain do you need to go to find corruption on BOTH sides of the aisle? You're stretching, mons!

    Clinton was/is a lying lecherous unfaithful bastard with no moral fiber. He also held the office of President.

    GW Bush is a man who does the right thing, even if it's not popular. He serves in the office of President.

    Amazing that if someone does something sincere, the Dems spin it as some "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".

    Know what? it IS!
    It's A Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy to maintain the foundational tenets of this country.
     
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    Well, VP isn't *that* far down the food chain from POTUS, is it? ;) I know that was OT for this thread...I just find it interesting that people demonize Clinton as a response to criticism of GWB.

    Again, why couldn't he have taken a helo and worn a business suit? And as far as honorable service, what's the deal with GWB's Guard record again?
     
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    It is not stolen tax money. Like it or not the people that tax you are duly elected representatives with duly authorized authority to tax constituents. Moreover, you even chose to come live under a system that is authorized to tax its citizens. There is zero justification for you to claim that tax money is stolen from you and frankly, its become a tired and worn out argument.
     
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