Bush wants your "Assault Weapons" including your semi-auto shotguns...

[Thumper]

But, although I do not know the man personally, I honestly think that Rep. DeLay is man of principle and a friend to gun owners.

I DO know him and his family personally. Though I don't agree with everything he supports, I do believe he is a friend to gun owners.

 

[Secret Master]

Good to hear! Thank you!

 

[oldfart]

Secret Master, Thumper-- I dearly hope you're right. This is one issue on which I'd like nothing more than to be wrong.

 

[aquapong]

The video said that GW supports the current ban. It said nothing about a more restrictive ban. Your post seems a bit misleading Jitsuguy. No where in that video did Ari announce GW's support for the more restrictive and permanent bans.

I agree that support for the current ban isn't what I want to hear either, but to date he has not come out as pro/con a more restrictive measure.

 

[Mark Tyson]

Outrageous legislation is proposed on all sides every year; often it never makes its way out of commitee. I think this one will die a quiet death as other issues make it to the forefront in the run up to the election. I'm writing my reps (and other people's reps, and the president . . .) anyway just to let them know. We've just got to make sure they don't pull a FOPA 86 on us.

 

[rick_reno]

Bush wants your "assault weapons"

It's a fact the current '94 ban will expire in 2004. That won't change. To believe that another one won't be passed is to ignore history, and I advise you not to do that. Tell me when was the last time that the Federal govt. restored ANY of your rights surrounding firearms and I'll start to believe they won't pass another ban. I don't know whether the new ban will be the same or more restrictive, but following my rule of "don't ignore history" suggests it should be more restrictive. There is a lot of political landscape to cover before next Sept. rolls around and anything can happen to spur Congress into passing something.
I hope I'm wrong and this ban or something like it isn't passed again, but if past performance is any indication of future performance - we'll have another ban rolling down the pike by next fall.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

The video said that GW supports the current ban. It said nothing about a more restrictive ban. Your post seems a bit misleading Jitsuguy. No where in that video did Ari announce GW's support for the more restrictive and permanent bans.

It sounds like aquapong and I saw the same video. Is there some other video that we were supposed to see?

Bush wants your "Assault Weapons" including your semi-auto shotguns...

Also, here's video that proves Bush supports this ban... http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/bus...ltweaponsban.rm

H.R. 2038/S. 1431, introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), does not just "reenact" or "reauthorize" the 1994 Clinton ban, the so-called "assault weapon" law. It bans millions more guns and begins backdoor registration of guns. All told, it's a giant step closer to the goal stated by Clinton gun ban sponsor Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), on CBS 60 Minutes "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it." There is no 10-year sunset provision in H.R. 2038/S. 1431. It permanently bans every gun that is currently banned and:

This thread starts out on, and maintains a false premise. It uses a video clip that quite clearly shows that the "evidence" presented does not match the opening assertion.

I am curious why a thread, that presents no evidence to support its claim, is given the status of "Float"?

Bush supports renewal of the current ban. Everyone that bothered to pay attention has known this since 2000 at the very least. That he supports the renewal quite frankly sucks, but - and I don't think I can emphasize this enough - everyone has known his position since 2000. As such, there is nothing new presented here vis-a-vis President Bush's position regarding the assault weapons ban.

If the original poster of this thread would like to present some evidence that President Bush does indeed support "H.R. 2038/S. 1431, introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.)", I would certainly be interested in seeing it. Barring that, I seriously have to wonder what is being accomplished with this thread especially since it has been given special status in this forum.

 

[femoralis]

The Gunowners Protection Act in '86 repealed some stupid federal laws, such as signing for ammo purchases and prohibiting people from buying long guns in nonresident states. So rick reno, you are wrong about no fed gun control going away.

 

[Airboss]

Gun Owners Protection Act 1986

This Bill Baned Machine Guns forever/ie.no new Machine Guns unless for Law enforcement or Military-Thanks Congress

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

This Bill Baned Machine Guns forever/ie.no new Machine Guns unless for Law enforcement or Military-Thanks Congress

That portion was added by a Democrat from New Jersey in the last four minutes of debate on the bill.

The bill does a lot more than that and I for one AM thankful that Congress passed it. We would be in a bad way if they had not.

A few things made possible by the 1986 FOPA:

1) Gun shows

2) ATF can now be made to pay your court costs if they prosecute you without sufficient evidence.

3) ATF now has to have a warrant to inspect an FFLs records more than once a year. Before this, they could and did short circuit the system to revoke an FFLs license by simply "inspecting" them out of business.

4) You no longer have to register each purchase of handgun ammunition

Plus lots more... read one of the anti websites sometime to see just how much they hate this law.

 

[JitsuGuy]

Duncan Idaho,

Here's the quote from the video about 3 minutes into it... "Is the president willing to fight for this, to fight for the EXTENSION of the uhh assault weapons ban?" Ari Flescher replies with, "Well, the president has made his position known....."

So tell me Duncan Idaho, what exactly are you not getting out of that?

Jits

 

[WonderNine]

The NRA won't compromise this time. I think they've finally seen the light.

 

[Thumper]

Jitsuguy,

I'm not going to speak for Duncan, but I believe his point is that Bush supports (publicly) a renewal of the existing ban.

As I'm sure you realize, the '94 bill has nothing to do with the monstrosity you posted.

Per the White House:

"The President supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.

You understand that the "current law" has very little chance of passing, correct?

 

[dandean316]

I'm going to write my reps, but should I send to the DC office or their local office?

I've been emailing up to this point, which they don't seem to respond to very well. State reps do, but the US reps don't.