C&R Complications: Mailing Address.

[stevemis]

I've decided to apply for a C&R License. Unfortunately, our mailing address "situation" is kind of unique and looks like it might cause some issues.

We live out in the middle of nowhere. Our mailman of several years is a complete screw-up who always delivers the wrong mail. I mean, I don't get the neighbor's mail -- I get random mail addressed to people 20 miles away...! It's like a big grab-bag and whatever comes up goes into my mailbox. No amount of calling the post office and complaining seemed to resolve it.

One day I finally got torqued off enough and removed the mailbox. I then went out to the post office and got a PO Box.

So, UPS & Fedex will deliver to the house, but the Post Office won't because there is no box (and hasn't been for a number of years). Ultimately, things haven't changed much -- I never actually got much of my own mail when the post office "delivered" here anyway. I don't have to make the several hundred foot trek to the mailbox only to find mail addressed to people I've never heard of.

If I specify the PO Box as my mailing address on the C&R application, the license will show up. Unfortunately, UPS & Fedex won't be able to deliver anything there. I believe most of my shipments will be UPS/Fedex since the Post Office won't allow firearms in the mail for 03C&R, right?

It really sounds like I need to put my mailbox back out, doesn't it?

Would it be an option to use my office address? My company doesn't have any silly "no firearms" rules. I own the place.

Steve

 

[Hkmp5sd]

You can receive firearms shipped via the post office from firearm dealers. You (actually anyone) can ship long guns through the post office, but not handguns. Still, most (if not all) of your shipping will be through UPS/Fed Ex.

Also, there is no requirement that a firearm must be shipped to your "licensed premises." You can list your house on your license and still have dealers ship to your US mail PO Box.

 

[cane]

HKmp5sd, While anyone can mail a long gun through the USPS it has to go to a licensed dealer. Unfortunately a C&R doesn't qualify as a "dealer" therefore you have to use UPS or FedEx, DHL doesn't ship firearms. Every vendor I have delt with has insisted on shipping to the address on the license.

 

[deadin]

I have the same situation. Mail is received at the PO , UPS/FedEx at street address. My C&R has both addresses on it. Provide them with both on the application. In fact, if you don't give them a physical address (street), you probably won't get a license.

 

[Red Tornado]

I'm also out in the boondocks, and I just have RR1 Box 288, on my C&R, which works for the USPS, but not other services. When I've ordered C&R stuff, or ammo, they always asked for a shipping address, and I gave them my physical address with no problem. I've ordered guns and ammo from Century Arms, SOG, and AIM, possibly others, but never had a problem.
RT

 

[EOD Guy]

HKmp5sd, While anyone can mail a long gun through the USPS it has to go to a licensed dealer. Unfortunately a C&R doesn't qualify as a "dealer" therefore you have to use UPS or FedEx, DHL doesn't ship firearms. Every vendor I have delt with has insisted on shipping to the address on the license.

Not true. There is no USPS restriction that a rifle or shotgun can only go to a licensed dealer. The only restriction is that the shipment be legal under GCA 68 and FOPA.

Also, there are two addresses on the license, the mailing address and the premises address. Most vendors will ship to either address.

 

[Kharn]

There's boxes on the application for mailing address and physical address. The mailing address is where the ATF will send all correspondance, but dealers can ship to either (depending on service used).

Kharn

 

[Technosavant]

The physical address is where the collection will be kept. That's where the guns are supposed to be, along with the bound book.

Like other said, just use the PO Box as the mailing address, but use your REAL address as the physical address.

 

[stevemis]

Thanks for all of the replies. It looks like my concern was unnecessary...

Steve

 

[Gator]

HKmp5sd, While anyone can mail a long gun through the USPS it has to go to a licensed dealer. Unfortunately a C&R doesn't qualify as a "dealer" therefore you have to use UPS or FedEx, DHL doesn't ship firearms. Every vendor I have delt with has insisted on shipping to the address on the license.

Not true. There is no USPS restriction that a rifle or shotgun can only go to a licensed dealer. The only restriction is that the shipment be legal under GCA 68 and FOPA.

Well, GCA 68 says that it must go to a licensed dealer if it is an interstate transfer (and not to yourself), and the DMM says State and Federal laws must be followed, so it's almost true

 

[EOD Guy]

Well, GCA 68 says that it must go to a licensed dealer if it is an interstate transfer (and not to yourself), and the DMM says State and Federal laws must be followed, so it's almost true

Not quite. GCA 68 say licensee, not licensed dealer. A dealer is only one of nine different types of licensees.

 

[Gator]

You're right, there are other types of FFLs. I should have just said licensee to avoid confusion, but for the purposes of this discussion 01 and 03 FFLs are the ones we would most ofter be involved with.

Steve, I too have both a mailing address and a shipping address for my C&R, it is no problem.