(CA) Police Seize Cache of Thousands of Illegal Gun Parts

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HEADLINE: Police Seize Cache of Thousands of Illegal Gun Parts

BYLINE: By MASON STOCKSTILL, City News Service

DATELINE: LOS ANGELES

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More than 30,000 gun parts that could have been put together to make hundreds of illegal weapons were seized in Chatsworth, officials said today.

The gun parts, found in several containers behind a business, were recovered after two Los Angeles police officers followed a lead that came out of an otherwise uneventful traffic encounter.

"Here we had two of our (narcotics) officers making a routine traffic stop who, using their sixth sense, came up with the score of their lives," said police Chief William Bratton.

The man police believe was stockpiling the weapons has not been arrested, though officers have located and interviewed him.

On Friday, LAPD officers Mike Coogle and Luke Walden stopped two known drug users and obtained consent to search their vehicle.

Inside, the officers found several Uzi submachine guns -- illegal in California -- and asked the suspects where they got them.

The suspects told Coogle and Walden they had heard about a container behind a business at 9825 Mason Ave. in Chatsworth, where thousands of gun parts were being stored, and that several people had breached.

Officers Coogle and Walden told their supervisors, and before long the LAPD and federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents had visited the site and seized the weapons.

"This proactive police work, there's no doubt in my mind, is responsible for saving lives and keeping illegal guns off the streets," said Mayor Jim Hahn.

Lt. Steven Nielsen of the LAPD's gun unit said the suspect believed to have stockpiled all the gun parts -- an immigrant in the country since he was 11 -- has cooperated with investigators.

He has not been arrested because the investigation is ongoing, Nielsen said, and firearms cases often are complicated.

"When you're dealing with the large, huge numbers that we're dealing with today, it's a very complex investigation -- that if we jump into it too quickly it could taint our investigation and we might not be able to get all the proper charges filed on the individual," Nielsen said.

He did not reveal why the suspect had such a large cache of weapons, but said there was no evidence of any militia or terrorism link.

City officials declared the bust a victory.

"These are guns that will never have the chance to take a life in our city because they are now in our possession," Bratton said.
 
"These are guns that will never have the chance to take a life in our city because they are now in our possession," Bratton said.

Evil self-animating guns will never have the chance to take a life. We are going to melt it down on Mount Doom, and make 18 rings of power of out if. :scrutiny:
 
Cache of firearms found in Chatsworth
$3 million value put on items

By Jason Kandel
Staff Writer

CHATSWORTH -- Two drug officers on routine patrol ferreted out a cache of high-powered weapons and thousands of firearms parts worth more than $3 million, authorities said Tuesday.

The weapons, along with the components to assemble hundreds of additional guns, were found Friday night inside four large containers behind a storage facility in the 9800 block of Mason Avenue. The contents included Uzis, World War II-era M-1 carbines and grenade launcher adapters, along with military fatigues, military rations and other equipment.

"Today's event is the result of proactive work," LAPD Chief William Bratton said at a news conference, where he commended Officers Luke Walden and Mike Coogle for their work. "These are guns that will never have a chance to take a life in the city because they are now in our possession."

The discovery came after Walden and Coogle stopped two suspected drug users in a motor home and found that one of them had an illegal Uzi assault rifle in his backpack. When the officers asked about the rifle, they were directed to the Chatsworth location.

Armed with a search warrant, teams from the Los Angeles Police Department gun unit and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found four large storage bins filled with firepower. Two more bins were found later at a second address.

No arrests have been made, although police have been questioning a man they believe had stockpiled the weapons for years. They identified him only as an Indian national in his 40s who has been living in Chatsworth since he was 11.

"We know where he is," said police Lt. Steven Nielsen. "We're confident we're able to locate him if, in fact, we get a filing with the District Attorney's Office."

Police said they will seek charges of illegal gun possession and unregistered assault weapons against the man. Authorities said there was no evidence of terrorism.

Mayor James Hahn described the bust as a "gold mine of illegal weapons -- weapons that obviously have devastating firepower. We're going forward to make sure the responsible parties are prosecuted to the full extent of the law."

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~1269962,00.html
 
Sounds like parts kits and ignorant LAPD types. I wonder how far away this guy lives from Northridge International...
 
Somewhere, deep in the bowels of BATFE, there has to be a small office whose job it is to "place a value" on illegal "caches", for media (and arraignment) purposes. When an "arsenal", is found, this department springs into action. Their assignment is to inflate the appraisal, to make it sound more evil. They have the original list price database for all miltary equipment ever produced...a de-milled receiver, or any trigger assembly parts, count as a NIB rifle; likewise inert grenades, training rounds, or bazooka tubes count as NIB actual weapons.

Always, the police statement issued on the second day, contains an "estimated value" of the items. Its getting to be quite laughable, really.

In this case, six rubbermaid bins of misc. parts become:
a cache of high-powered weapons and thousands of firearms parts worth more than $3 million, authorities said Tuesday.

Remember the Scott Segal case in Mesa, AZ? A few wall hangers and demilled rpg's...$800,000.00 "estimated value".

Likewise the David Hudak story from New Mexico...boxes of factory reject warheads used for breaking rocks, transformed into "2,000 tactical missiles "valued at $54 million". That has to be the all-time whopper!

Apparently the tactic works...Mr. Hudak has been held without bail, all his assets seized since last August.

I think they do the same thing for drug seizures in the DEA, using the magic phrase "street value", to appraise bulk drugs, thus maximizing the impact of the event.

Nobody bothers to follow up on these "estimates", that's not the point. Just hoping the readers take these stories with a "pound" of salt.
 
Where do they get it?

"Here we had two of our (narcotics) officers making a routine traffic stop who, using their sixth sense, came up with the score of their lives," said police Chief William Bratton.

Is the police issued the "sixth sense" when they graduate from police skul, or do they buy it from the cop shop?:confused:
 
"Inside, the officers found several Uzi submachine guns -- illegal in California -- and asked the suspects where they got them.

The suspects told Coogle and Walden they had heard about a container behind a business at 9825 Mason Ave. in Chatsworth, where thousands of gun parts were being stored, and that several people had breached."

Sixth Sense ?
:confused:
 
yeah, I like the first article, too. "obtained consent to search their vehicle". How could this possibly be an uncooerced consent? Oh yeah officer, just watch out for the UZIS!
 
So.... why isn't anyone asking

1. Who's containers they were?
2. Why there were enough parts in there for anyone with rudimentary skills could assemble a working class III SMG?
3. Why didn't anyone save one for me? :D

Kevin
 
How come no one ever finds a low powered rifle?

The cops found $3,000,000 of illegal firearm parts and did not even haul the guy down for fingerprints and mugshot?

Uzi assault rifle?

Yep. Gov't says my Uzi carbine is an assault rifle. It has a bayonet lug. (How many people knew the Uzi has a bayonet lug? :) )
 
Gah! Why can't I ever find these stashes before the cops do? :cuss: :evil:
 
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