Ca residents give me a hand!

[Pietro Beretta]

The only way you can buy a gun out of state, is if you’re a resident of whatever state your buying from. I know its easy to establish a second residency in Arizona for example.

Otherwise if you live in California, and you go into Nevada to buy the firearm, You have to be a resident for them to legally sell it to you. IF YOUR NOT A RESIDENT THEY WILL NOT/ CAN NOT SELL

IF you are not a resident they will have to send it to an FFL dealer here In Cali, If the firearm is not on the approved list, then they wont sell the firearm to you.

By federal law, a dealer from another state may not sell you a handgun directly, he must ship the handgun to a dealer in your state, where the transfer takes place. This means the gun must still comply with the Attorney General’s standards, and the standards in the law.

HOWEVER if you do have a second residency lets say in Arizona, and as long as its purchased in AZ and paperwork filled out in AZ then YES you can bring any firearm into CA that is not on the Ban list. Of course you have register it with the CA DOJ and pay a Reg fee of 25$ per firearm.

Shotguns/Rifles are different.

Federal law allows persons to buy rifles and shotguns from a federally licensed dealer in another state, provided all requirements of the buyer’s and seller’s home state are met. Thus, a Neveda resident with a Card or License could lawfully purchase rifles and shotguns from gun stores in other states.

OR

If you have a Father/Grandfather/Spouce that lives out of state. Have them purchase the firearm in their name. Then have them fill out the Intra-Family transfer form w/ the registration fees to the CA DOJ. They can legally give the firearm to you withought any waiting period and by-pass the 1 gun a month law. However if you cant legally own a gun in CA then the transfer wont go through, and of course you cant legally own anything on the ban list.


Unless I am totally mis-informed and have no real Idea what im talking about.

 

[Justang]

Nope, that's wrong. And here's my experience. A friend and I went to Utah and he bought a Glock 22 up there. But he had to do the 10day wait. Our friend that lives in Utah bought a Glock 22 that same day. Utah resident walked out with the gun. My friend waited 10days.

Just because it's not the the aproved list doesn't mean it's illegal to own. It just means it can't be sold here. I mean seriously, why would a blued .44mag from Taurus be illegal when the SS one isn't? It's just that Taurus thought that they would sell more SS guns and only paid to get it approved.

Aproved and banned are two different things. There is an actual list of handguns that can be sold in California... not ones that are banned, there's a list for that... but this list is just for handguns that CAN be SOLD in Cali.

A also know this because my FFL dealer told me to go out of state and get the Taurus that I wanted.

I'm stating this as fact because of my experiences. But in reality, I've been wrong before. Guess the only way is to look up the laws.

 

[Pietro Beretta]

Well Just to be sure, I am calling up the ca doj to see what they say about going accross state lines to purchase a firearm.

If you can legally,then I have about 5 firearms I want to buy that are not approved for sale here in CA. If I can go to utah and buy this weapon and bring it back legally, im thier.

Here is the question/s I am asking the CA DOJ:

Hello.

As a California resdient, is it legal for me to go accross the state line into utah, and legally purchase a handgun, if the handgun is NOT on the CA ban list?

As a California resident,is it legal to purchase any handgun accross state lines, evin if the paperwork was completed in the state the purchase was made, as long as the handgun is not on any ban list here in CA?

 

[railroader]

Justang, how did your friend register the glock when he got back to california? Non registered handguns are illegal in cali. Why would a dealer hold a handgun in utah for 10 days when the waiting period is for handguns purchased(transfered) in california not utah? The only way I would think a cali resident could buy a handgun out of state would be to have the dealer ship it to a cali ffl who would then start the paperwork and the 10 day waiting period. The gun would also have to be on the safe list. It would be similar to buying a gun off of the auction sites. I have always heared that it is illegal to purchase handguns across state lines but rifles are ok with some states, california isn't one of them. The one exemption would be c&r handguns purchased with a c&r license. Mark

 

[Pietro Beretta]

Since its the weekend calling up the department of justice is a no go untill monday. So I emaild them asking the qestions above.

I did talk to my personal FFL dealer and they affirmed everything I stated above with the exeption of being able to buy a Shotgun/Rifle across state line.

State law in California prohibits buying any Firearm out of state, including shotguns/rifles.

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I was also told my little Intra-Family loop-hole is also Legal.
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I don't know where you are getting your information but.....

 

[Kruzr]

You don't have to call the DOJ. You cannot bring a new gun into Calfornia from out of state without going through a California FFL. The gun must go through the DROS system. Only California FFL's have the computer access to the DOJ DROS page. An out of state FFL cannot DROS the gun. It is a violation of both Federal and State laws to buy a new gun out of state and bring it back.

You also cannot do a private party transfer from a non-Californian resident. An out of state seller needs an FFL to ship it to a Calfornia FFL. As such it must be an approved gun.

There are two ways to get non-approved guns in California. One is a private party transfer with another California state resident for a gun already in the state.

The other way is if one's parent or grandparent came to visit and brought a gun to give to their child. While perfectly legal in California, this one appears to still violate Federal law of interstate gun transfers. FWIW, I asked the ATF guys at their booth at the SHOT Show about this and they just said that if the state allowed it, they probably wouldn't bother with it unless something else raised a flag. You would have to decide if it's worth it this way.

 

[Pietro Beretta]

The other way is if one's parent or grandparent came to visit and brought a gun to give to their child. While perfectly legal in California, this one appears to still violate Federal law of interstate gun transfers. FWIW, I asked the ATF guys at their booth at the SHOT Show about this and they just said that if the state allowed it, they probably wouldn't bother with it unless something else raised a flag. You would have to decide if it's worth it this way.

(I call this the Intra-Family loop hole, It also applies to your spouce IIRC)

I know of 1 person who has done this, and all the paperwork went through. If the CA DOJ approved the "transfer" it must be legal

 

[Justang]

They did a DROS and everything on him. I think. this was a while ago. I'm foggy on the details.

See what they say. 'Cause he has the gun now.

Either way, screw it all. I don't think 'big brother' needs to know I have a gun. Screw DROS.