Called CZ-USA about my CZ-97B's disliking hollow points

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And talked to Mike, the head gunsmith there. He said to simply send the barrel in, and he'd throat/polish it. It's a common thing they have to do with CZ-97s, leading one to wonder why they simply don't ship that way from the factory. Remember, though, that the pistols are made in the Czech Republic, and CZ-USA only imports them. I guess in Eastern Europe, hollow points aren't real popular (or aren't legal).

Anyways, it's covered by the warranty, so it won't cost me anything, which is really cool. I hope it works out; I've grown very attached to my CZ-97; it's uncommon, sweet-shooting, and tough. And I mean tough. It's survived a couple boxes of .45 Super, for example, and an impromptu dirt test in which a little bit of dirt was poured into the action (some got in the magazine and it jammed, but that's a mag thing, not the gun's fault). (Some accused me of both madness and stupidity for doing this test, and suggested that a half-handful of dirt would destroy the gun, apparently assuming that I packed the chamber and barrel full of clay and fired it that way. I'm happy to report that modern metallurgy defeated dirt once again. And I'm hardly the first gunowner to fire his weapon when dirty; one TFLer reported how his Beretta kept on firing after being dropped in an outdoor latrine!)

In any case, I think the pistol is definately a keeper, and I've abandoned any thoughts of selling or trading it. I'd never forgive myself if I did. I just wish that the CZ folks in the Czech Republic would listen to what CZ-USA's American customers are telling them:

-The pistol is undersprung from the factory. Mike @ CZUSA recommends a Wolff heavier recoil spring. You can use the same one as the CZ-75.

-In order to install the heavy recoil spring, you need a full length, steel guide rod, also for the CZ-75. While this works, it's much thinner than the factory plastic guide rod and gets dinged up pretty bad. A better fitting piece designed specifically for the 97B would be great.

-And, of course, polish that steep feed ramp so it'll eat hollowpoints. Most 97B owners have had more luck with JHP ammo than me, mind you, and mine is as reliable as the sunrise with hardball. But still, if the problem is this common, the factory in the Czech Republic should be addressing it, not the gunsmith in Kansas City.

I don't regret buying it in the least. I paid about $580 out the door for it, but bear in mind that prices are higher in my area. Still, that's cheaper than a lot of other .45s, and the fit and finish of the gun are simply a level above what you'd find on a Ruger P90, for example.

I'll make sure I give a range report with various JHP ammo when I get my barrel back from CZ-USA.
 
If your going to send it it... no... it wont cost you a dime.

But you might want to consider having Mike do a little extra work on it. Trigger work and polished rails would turn a 97B into some thing extra special.
My 97B was the most accurate handgun I have ever owned.
Getting rid of it was a mistake.
Big mistake.
I should have just sent it in.

/kickingmyselfprofusely
 
Well, I've got some customizing to do. I want to get my .41 rebarrelled to 4" before I get any non-warranty work done on the CZ-97. Though...if I'm going to send the whole pistol in, I want to try to arrange it to get a Witness ambidextrious safety mounted. It's not a normal modification, and requires a little doing, but I've heard that Mike @ CZ-USA could do it. So, if I can get THAT done, some trigger work and other touches wouldn't hurt (though the trigger is buttery and was right out of the box). The ambi safety would allow me to properly use the safety lever.

You know, other than the safety, the pistol is VERY lefty friendly. The slide release is perfectly positioned for me to hit it with my trigger finger, whereas I can hardly reach the thing with my thumb when in my right hnad.
 
The FLGR for the 97's is a big seller on the forum. Its gotten RAVE reviews by everyone who owns one...no mods..just drop it in. Ill tell ya...Ive got an SA with the shorty unit in it...with heavier springs..Its not happy. Im gonna order one of these for my SA ...and fit it....my choice.
The rails are very easy to do yourself as long as you take baby steps in doing the work...to much....OOPS.
Mike is highly recommended for his trigger work. I got the pleasure of playing with a Tuned by Mike gun....with about a 1 1/2 # trigger....WOW! My SA was done locally by a VERY talented smith. He did a Comp/Carry trigger job that breaks at about 3 1/2 #'s.....
The Witness safety is used for a more positive engagement/disengagement because it uses "ball detents" in the frame for on and off....the CZ safety doesnt do it.
CZ does offer an ambi safety...that may work in the 97 that will drop in..but engagement isnt as positive.
FLGR, Rails done, Trigger done, Witness Ambi safety......all you need are killer nights, Wolff springs and Hakan grips......
Oh ya...Im making 97 holsters that will be out in June......
It may be a worth while addition to an already stellar gun also...
Shoot well
 
My 97B was the most accurate handgun I have ever owned. Getting rid of it was a mistake. Big mistake. I should have just sent it in.

George, you are welcome to come visit/shoot your long lost 97 any time. It wears a set of Hogue Wrap Arounds now, but we could break out the wood grips for old times sake if you like :) . I have often wondered if you had done any work to it. I got the gun from MiniZ whom you had sold it to. His hands were a little too small for it. Obviously you or he had put the full length guide rod and possible a higher power spring. Did you do anything else to the gun? I have not had any FTFs, but I haven't fired any HPs through it yet. It is an extremely accurate gun. Maybe I should sent it in for the free work.
 
Don't tease me...

Yeah, I put in the guide rod and the 16# Wolff spring.
The original spring is simply too weak for a .45.
If you try HP's go with rounds that have a nice round ogive like a golden saber or better yet, 185 grainers...
There are high detail digital pics of it at MadOgre.com if you want some wallpapers.

I will get another 97B in the future... but it will be a blued one.

You know, I normally go for compact sized guns when it comes to a wish list - but for the 97 I'd actually like to see a longslide version available. I know there is one, but you can't get it in the States. High caps... I want high caps for it too.
 
I wanted to let you guys know that today at the range we fired at least 3 different types of hollow points with zero FTF's. PRCCCW will know the exact brands and what grain they were if anyone is interested.
 
Hey guys :D
We ran some Hydra 230's, Dot 200's and Magtech 200's through Georges old gun a couple of days ago and not a burp! We didnt run enough to give %'s of Failures..but then again it didnt have any...so all is well.
12Volt and a friend of his, met me up here for a mini shoot/get togethor. LOTS of CZ's 7-8 between the 2 of us....:rolleyes: :D
Well have to do a comparison of the Nickel Compact, PCR and PO1 sometime.....
The only failure all day with any gun...was one slide lock back (mid mag) on my stroked SA, with a new Pro Mag I bought for range use.
With CZ OEM mags, I guarantee you we blew through 400-500 rnds (mostly 12 Volts :D Ill bring the arsenol next time :evil: ) of 9mm and 45 acp....not one failure. Also the K9 and XD 9 of 12Volts are right up there with the CZ's for dependability and accuracy also....WONDERFUL WEAPONRY!
The Kahr made me realize how much I miss mine and FORCED me to realize I hadnt shot one in a while. As my daughter would say " I need trigger help major!".......LOL :what: 12Volt proceeded to blow out the X at 25 yds with the little K9 with the first 3-4 shots touching. NICE SHOOTING!
The XD proved to be a very nice shooter....super clean trigger and my first shot went right through the X ring at 25 yds.....it went down hill fast from there...but I was impressed.
Nice guns, great company and lots of ammo....wonderful time and well do it again soon.....time, leather and ammo permitting.
Shoot well............:neener:
 
How is that FLGR holding up? I tried to keep a coating of grease on that thing so the spring wouldn't chew it up... but I could see some touches with a dremmel in the future to keep it smooth. There is a cat selling a stainless one on the CZ forums now. I'd look into that.
 
How is that FLGR holding up?
The FLGR does not seem to have any issues. I have thought of getting the one the guy on the CZ forum is doing. I have also seen posts where people talk about getting the newer bushing from CZ USA. I haven't looked much into that yet.
LOTS of CZ's 7-8 between the 2 of us....
That was fun to have a lot of CZ's there. PRCCCW is trying to set up a Utah CZ shoot. Check out the general discussion over on the CZ forum if you are interested. CZ Forum
 
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