Calling All CVA Buffs...

[grace2u]

I am in the market for a couple of different toys...one is a new muzzleloader. I had an old Optima that I loved and never missed with, but wanted to upgrade into the stainless for cleaning purposes. Anyway, I traded it and have begun the search for a new one. I live for black powder season here in Tennessee, so I need to be getting geared quick.

My question, why would you buy a CVA Accura instead of a CVA Optima? It looks like it's mostly a design difference, but I don't see enough difference for the extra cash (except the Bergara barrel on the Accura). Anyone really know the difference?

 

[arcticap]

Even though the barrel is only barrel is 1" longer, the Accura weighs 1/2 lb. more. The Accura has built a solid reputation as being an extremely accurate model.

CVA Accura™ 209 Rifle – Stainless/Realtree

This new breed break-action muzzleloader is easier to cap, easier to clean and lighter in weight than other break-actions, plus it's outfitted with a premium stainless steel Bergara Barrel™. Bergara Barrels are among the most accurate production barrels in the world, helping the Accura earn its name. The 1-in-28"-twist fluted barrel with a Bullet Guiding Muzzle™ provides the right combination of maneuverability and efficient powder burning. The Accura is built off a totally new frame to reduce moving parts and give it a streamlined appearance. The breeching lever is built into the trigger guard, making this one of the easiest-opening break-actions around. The entire gun can be disassembled by removing just one screw. Its ambidextrous, ergonomic stock has a higher comb to ensure proper eye alignment when using a scope. A CrushZone™ recoil pad minimizes felt recoil. The cocking spur gives you a greater surface area for cocking and minimizes thumb pressure. Drilled and tapped for a scope mount. Aluminum extendable loading rod included. Comes with all-metal DuraSight® fiber-optic sights. Lifetime warranty. .50 caliber only.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...e=9IS&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233

 

[grace2u]

But they've completely redesigned the Optima as well. I'm trying to decide if it's really worth the extra cash. If not, that's more for optics and other guns.

 

[red rick]

I just bought a Accura yesterday. I went in to try the Triumph and the Omega, I wasn't even looking at the Accura. The salesperson told me I should try it, that one of the other salesmen bought one last year, and loves it, super accurate and a great trigger.

It was also on sale, over $200 dollars less than the Triumph, but that alone didn't make me buy it. It was the better feeling trigger and 416 SS Bergara barrel and CVA will also let you try it out for 2 weeks and if it is not the most accurate muzzle loader that you have shot you can return it for a full refund.

I was going to try mine out today. Drove to the Wildlife State Park, about 30 miles from me. They have a public long gun range. When I got there, (all eager to shoot), the gate was shut and the sign said (" closed from April til Sep."). So I guess I will not get a chance to try out CVA's guarantee.

Cabella's has it on sale now for $329.99.

 

[grace2u]

wow, I've been going back and forth between the Optima, the Accura, and the Triumph. Many put CVA down as a junk brand, but I really loved the Optima I had. It never missed. I'm bummed because it appears that nobody is going to really talk about muzzleloaders until September...when its too late to really buy, work up loads and optics, etc. Get us a review when you can.

 

[Ratdog68]

I (for one) can't talk about 'em. Inlines are of no interest to my muzzle loading interests. I have no knowledge of inlines to offer you any insight. Sorry. I'm a Hawken/Renegade kinda feller when it comes to smoke poles.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I thought the Optimas came with Bergara barrels. My Optima Elite did. I do love it. It's blued though. I would like to have a stainless model. I've heard a lot of negative things about CVA, but I own two and they are both very accurate and have never given me a problem.

 

[red rick]

I shot mine today and was very happy with it's accuracy. It has a hair trigger, I am not use to it yet, most of the time it went off before I expected it to, but that is what you want if you are on target. It was making holes that touched each other at 50 yards with open sights. The only thing that I didn't like about it was the adjustment to the rear sight. I messed it up, I thought the scews in it were like my other sights, turn the screws to adjust it. It was shooting to the right so i turned the windage screw to the right. That only over tighten the screw and mesed up the base. The screws are just set screws. You have to loosen them and tap the top portion of the sight to move it, the screws do not move it. I feel like a idiot for messing the sight up. I might put a scope on it now.

 

[Shultzhaus]

Red Rick - If you think you messed up your rear sight, check with Williams Gunsight. They might have a replacement for you.

 

[arcticap]

I would ask CVA if they will send you a free replacement.

 

[T.R.]

I bought a CVA Wolf in 50 caliber. New cost was $165. The plastic stock is sort of junky but it shoots amazingly well! This rifle shoots a predictable 2 - 3inch group at 75 yards from sitting position. I shoot hollow tip TC maxi-ball in 50 caliber.

There is a noticeable difference in quality between Accura and Wolf. But difference between Wolf and Optima is barely discernable. I plan to keep this Wolf rifle indefinately. Perhaps make a wooden stock next Winter from laminate or birch.

TR

 

[red rick]

CVA is sending me a new sight set for $10 plus $5 for shipping. It sells for $29.95 on there website. They don't sell just the front or rear sight.

The cs rep. also told me about another problem that he gets alot of calls on, the threads on the hammer stud are left handed.

 

[frontiergander]

You cant go wrong with the CVA Accura or the New CVA Optima,

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I like CVA and Traditions both and own 3 of each (.45 caliber) and I seriously doubt that CVA makes any model of muzzle loader that is any MORE accurate than the Traditions Vortek..(which I do NOT own and never will, but a lady friend of mine does..(.50 caliber I reckon) and that thing will carry the mail)..It MIGHT be a .45 but I'm pretty sure it's a .50.. Accurate as all hell at least in her hands anyway, I know that....

 

[frontiergander]

A rifle is only as accurate as the shooter.

That Accura above has a best 3 shot group of .403" @ 100 yards with a 245gr powerbelt and 150gr American Pioneer Super Stick.


Theres always room for load development!

 

[MCgunner]

A timely post as I've been looking at the stainless optima.