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But if, that person has views that are most contrary to what we believe, shouldn't that person be reviled?

I will bid a respectful "adieu" and take my leave. The above statement is just a paraphrasing of the Bush's administrations position on anybody who opposed the war:

"Anybody who is not with us is a terror lover."

as well as the actions that followed by the "faithful":

"Let's boycott those terror lovers and drive them out of business. We'll show them that freedom of speech comes at a very high price."

I know where this goes from here because I've been there, done that.
 
Your enemy is never a villian in his own eyes. Keep this in mind; it may offer a way to make him your friend. If not you can kill him without hate-- and quickly. Robert A.Heinlein


I hope our society isn't getting to the point where this will become necessary. I don't have much hope that we will be able to avoid violence in the not to distant future. Avoiding name caling would be a good start.

For our Democratic friends on this board I have another question to add to the mix:How do we reconcile the attack on individual freedom and responsibility that is at the core of almost every current Democratic policy with the RKBA?

I don't see how the two can be compatible. I don't see the leadership of the Dem party leaving us alone while they turn the rest of the country into a fascist police state(I know they would prefer a socialist police state but they will "compromise").
 
How do we reconcile the attack on individual freedom and responsibility that is at the core of almost every current Democratic policy with the RKBA?

By understanding it stems from a different interpretation, ie that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because of the need for a well regulated militia. Gun control people think that this applies to the state's rights to keep an armed national guard, we think it applies to individual gun ownership.

It also stems from false propoganda regarding how guns are used by individuals, and who they are used against.

Point is, you fight it by providing sources of truthful information which refutes these false numbers.

And, we also should acknowledge that it is not only the dems who arrogantly take away personal freedom when it aligns with their agenda.... to wit, the Patriot Act.
 
"WWSWS" what would Standing Wolf say?

I feel no compulsion toward being polite to hateful, unscrupulous people who've clearly and repeatedly stated their intent to turn me into a serf.

I hold them in contempt. I ridicule them. I mock them. I sneer at them. I do everything possible to vote them out of office. If they break into my house, I'll shoot the wretched parasites.
 
I think that the issue is this: if we use broadly applicable labels, we'll end up annoying those who came here to debate and lose our chance to convert them. In short, when preaching a certain gospel, don't start out by calling those who don't yet agree with you filthy infidels...they might not stay around to hear the rest of the presentation.
 
At the urban convent the young novice went to her mother superior and complained that the construction crew repairing the sidewalk out side her window were using the most terrible language. Couldn’t something be done?

The mother superior took the opportunity to lecture the novice on tolerance, saying "These are rough, hard working men. Sometimes they need to call a spade a spade."

The novice answered "But do they have to call it a ******* shovel?"




Actually, no, they do not.

We do not, however satisfying such an accurate description may be.
 
To convert those who come here? Interesting. If you lose your base what do you have then? Anti's that come here will never or almost never be converted. Just like a Baptist will not convert to Hinduism. Sure there are a few but not enough to alienate your base. Give that some consideration before you post things like this.
 
I find it fascinating that in

a forum made up of this group of people, there does seem to be a higher level of Political Correctness than at another forum in which I am nominally one (of the three) Resident Conservatives, and which is loaded with Liberals and Progressives.

At that forum, any political statement may be said in any manner--but rarely is. Interestingly enough, the quality of the posters there keep inane statements out. In other words, a simple scatological rant would be left off the forum because of its lack of content. (And believe me, there are loads of simple-minded 'progressives' there to rant at, or whose posts are merely propagandistic.)

Further, the name-calling, et.al. often reflects other statements of merit, and (at least in the use there) may be there only as a rhetorical device. Personally, referring to The Brady Bunch as "the Travelling Cripple Show" fills me with glee--and, I'd like to believe, expresses a certain wit and/or statement about my own knowledge--which is something someone else can better 'know' me.

But then, I am almost as absolute on Free Speech issues as I am on the 2nd A.

I find the name-calling and rants here subservient to the abstract idea conveyed--so, from my viewpoint, I would change nothing except maybe loosen it up more.

So, I'm with Standing Wolf, I guess--aren't I?
 
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If I see someone who is acting like a government shill, then I will say so. Likewise, if I believe a certain person has, in my opinion, committed treasonous acts, then I will call them a traitor. I will not be PC about it.

I do not, as a general rule, use obscenities. I will however use a choice four letter word occasionally as a method of exclamation when alternative words would not impart the impact I desire.

And I will continue to do so.

Should this get me banned from the board, then the board wasn't worth the effort in the first place.
 
Al, you get me to the "Art's Grammaw" idea. One can show strong opinions without using language that would offend somebody's grandmother. Remember, we have ladies who patronize this board, as well as guys who just don't care for a bunch of four-letter copulative verbs.

Why offend an audience by showing a lack of a command of the language?

For instance, would there be any doubt in your mind as to my opinion of you if I commented that I hoped your mother would crawl from beneath the porch and bite you? Would I really have needed to actually use the four-word appellation? :D

Me, I don't see all this as political correctness. It's simply courtesy and politeness as practiced by mature adults.

Why swear? Why not just suggest a gift certificate for a home visit from Jack Kevorkian?

This is an election year, and passions are running higher than normal. I have no problems with anybody having strong opinions. I would remind folks that a boxer in the ring usually loses the fight if he gets mad at his opponent, and fails to control his emotions...

:), Art
 
To argue over politics is in fact silly, to think either party has "our interest"
at heart is stupid. I voted Democrat first 25 years of my life and republican
the past 25, I see neither party looking our for joe average, so all the name
calling should be directed at the politicians in general.:D
 
Russ said
To convert those who come here? Interesting. If you lose your base what do you have then? Anti's that come here will never or almost never be converted. Just like a Baptist will not convert to Hinduism. Sure there are a few but not enough to alienate your base. Give that some consideration before you post things like this.
Are you suggesting that The High Road will lose members because we are asking them to be polite?
 
Art, ask Pax about the "four" letter words I might use.

Hint: There are only two and they are most definitely not copulative verbs.

Further Hint: One is a place. The other is what you must be to get to that place.

Even your Grammaw has been known to utter one or both of those words should the occasion actually call for that form of punctuation.... And when she did, you know to tread lightly!!

Of course, I could have saved all this typing by simply asking you to get your mind out of the gutter... so mine can float by. :D
 
Here is absoloute proof that you can go far beyond the pale without scatology or profanity....
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour p!ss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything.

Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
This breathtaking piece of poetic invective shows that we need more than just not using profane language. We also need to show a bit of respect for each other.
 
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