Camillus "Trapper" question.

[ApacheCoTodd]

I've always had a soft-spot for "trapper" and "stockman" styled folders and these caught my eye at an estate sale this past week.

Sure, they're a bit hollywood but still have that wonderful Camillus heft and action.

There is the "CAMILLUS" as shown and then: "N.Y USA" on the other side.

Looking inside the liners, there are no holes for the lanyard hole as is common on this style and it has brass liners.

I can find nothing like them on the internet for reference. Does anyone have any input about these two?

 

[Yarddog]

I'll take a stab, pun intended. maybe boot leg. Just a guess ; )
Y/D

 

[troy fairweather]

O have never seen those scales on CAMILLUS knifes maybe rescaled?

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

O have never seen those scales on CAMILLUS knifes maybe rescaled?

I wondered at that but I think if they were privately redone, the original lanyard hole would still be there.
I know the "Yellow Jacket" didn't have the holes but then too, it had no bolsters either.

Todd.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I'll take a stab, pun intended. maybe boot leg. Just a guess ; )
Y/D

I'm usually pretty good at pegging the Chinese, Paki/Indio knock-offs. I don't think these are phonies that way.

Todd.

 

[JohnKSa]

Let me preface my post by stating that I'm not a Camillus expert.

No pins holding the scales in place. That doesn't seem typical to me.

Do the liners have pin holes? If so then I would say they have been rescaled. If not, then I would lean towards them being some kind of knockoff.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Let me preface my post by stating that I'm not a Camillus expert.

No pins holding the scales in place. That doesn't seem typical to me.

Do the liners have pin holes? If so then I would say they have been rescaled. If not, then I would lean towards them being some kind of knockoff.

I thought that and noted the lack of holes but also noted that Camillus has a couple of big trappers with no external pins and some with one, none and two bolsters as well as sometimes having lanyard holes and sometimes not. Most confusing.


Todd.

 

[hso]

The last Camillus tang stamp had "New York" under Camillus.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

The last Camillus tang stamp had "New York" under Camillus.

I'm fairly certain it's not remotely new and there is a period with N.Y. on the other side too - adding to the confusion.
Thanks for the input though.

Todd.

 

[hso]

The "line over Camillus" was 1989 to the end of the company in 2007 and not what Camillus collectors consider "old".



https://www.allaboutpocketknives.co...de/camillus-knife-tang-stamp-reference-guide/
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/camillus-tang-stamps-and-dates.497708/
https://sep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/knifeworld/kastorlist.pdf

 

[Slamfire]

I believe these are real Camillus knives, and I like the showy grips!

I could not find a similiar example on ebay, but that does not mean these are not factory knives.

 

[greyling22]

try asking around here https://www.bladeforums.com/forums/traditional-folders-and-fixed-blades.773/ those bladeforums guys know their stuff.

 

[hso]

Please post a pic of the tang stamped blade all the way open.

 

[hso]

I sent the image to the former Camillus lead designer and he says it is probably a parts knife from the leftovers.

I asked about the lanyard hole and he says there should be a lanyard hole, but the scales cover it. If not, then it is even more of a parts piece.

So, parts knife assembled from leftover parts by someone with a good hand.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

The "line over Camillus" was 1989 to the end of the company in 2007 and not what Camillus collectors consider "old".

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https://www.allaboutpocketknives.co...de/camillus-knife-tang-stamp-reference-guide/
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/camillus-tang-stamps-and-dates.497708/
https://sep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/knifeworld/kastorlist.pdf

Thanks for those pics.
I've seen those but also talked to Camillus in reference to their custom program that I found in some old catalogs. Waiting fro a more detailed response from them.

Todd.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I believe these are real Camillus knives, and I like the showy grips!

I could not find a similiar example on ebay, but that does not mean these are not factory knives.

A camillus rep told me to not give up hope till he gets back to me due to their custom programs in the past.

Todd.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

try asking around here https://www.bladeforums.com/forums/traditional-folders-and-fixed-blades.773/ those bladeforums guys know their stuff.

Thanks.
As soon as I get to our other house for my passwords, I'll try them and AAPK as HSO suggested.

Todd.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Please post a pic of the tang stamped blade all the way open.

Here's one of each side.