Can’t remove 90two extractor pin

[Alec]

I’m trying to replace the extractor spring on a 90two and for the life of me, I can’t seem to drive out the extractor pin. I get it about 75% or more of the way out (tapping from the underside), but it seems like it’s staked on both sides.

The 90two must not have been popular enough for there to be YouTube tutorials on how to detail strip the slide, since I can only find videos on the 92. Each one makes it look comically easy, with the pin dropping out with one or two taps. I’ve broken two brass punches so far.

Is there a trick?

 

[entropy]

Pics?

 

[tarosean]

Are you pushing the extractor in while you push from the bottom.. It is not staked. It is a headed pin and only comes out from the top.

 

[Alec]

I’ve tapped it back in to make it operable again, so I don’t have a picture at the moment. But yes, I am tapping the pin on the underside under the slide) upwards. Pushing on either side of the extractor made no difference.

When my new punch set arrives I’ll take another picture.

 

[Alec]

By the way, I should add that my pin appears completely straight, whereas the pins shown in the 92 videos are headed as you have described.

 

[entropy]

Perhaps it was 'repaired' by someone who put any old pin in thinking that would do.

 

[tarosean]

By the way, I should add that my pin appears completely straight, whereas the pins shown in the 92 videos are headed as you have described.

I knew there were some internal changes but wasn't aware that the extractor pin was different. Looking at a couple different parts suppliers shows that the pin is very different and grooved. Maybe drop some penetrating oil ontop of it.

@Shipwreck, Your thoughts???

 

[herrwalther]

To remove the extractor and extractor spring drive out this pin from the bottom, out the top of the slide. This pin may be staked in as it has two diameters. Removing this pin also frees the firing pin and spring. In models with firing pin safeties, the firing pin safety must also be removed in order for the firing pin to be released. This is accomplished by driving out the small transverse roll pin just in front of the rear sight. The firing pin safety and spring can be dropped out the bottom of the slide.

This is in a repair manual for the 92 series and Taurus clones. So the possibility exists the pin is staked.

 

[Alec]

That's exactly what the pin looks like, thank you. I'm guessing if the pin is staked, my only option is to drill?

 

[entropy]

NO. Penetrating oil, (Kroil, PB Blaster) a couple taps on the pin to spread it, a little time, and medium strength repeated taps on the pin. Use a steel punch of just slightly under the pin's diameter. I wouldn't advise heat unless this method does not work. As you've not mentioned rust, this method should work. Drive it from the bottom of the slide, with the slide firmly held in a padded jaw vise.
If neither method works, DO NOT DRILL IT OUT. Bring it to a gunsmith.

The tapered end of the pin should be at the bottom of the slide.

 

[tarosean]

If neither method works, DO NOT DRILL IT OUT. Bring it to a gunsmith.

this!

 

[herrwalther]

If neither method works, DO NOT DRILL IT OUT. Bring it to a gunsmith.

Yes please. There are very few reasons to bring a drill to a firearm. Dremels have their uses in skilled hands. Drills are a different story. Even if you do use penetrating oil and try it yourself, a gunsmith will start with the same methods and work up from there, just to avoid using a drill themselves.

It looks like it is a roll pin, so use a roll pin punch if you have one. Roll pin punches have a small dimple in the strike surface to keep the open end of a pin open. It helps putting the pin back in when you are done.

 

[entropy]

It's not a roll pin, it is a straight pin with a bevel on one end, and it is staked. Sometimes they are a PITA to get out, but I've never had to drill one out yet.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Since you have deliberately called it a 90two twice, I have to ask.... Are you talking about a "92" or is there something else actually called a 90two?

Todd.

 

[cslinger]

Beretta made an undated 92. Called the 90two for a short bit most folks called them the dash two or some such.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_90two

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Beretta made an undated 92. Called the 90two for a short bit most folks called them the dash two or some such.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_90two

Thanks.
So then, does straight 92 advice apply to this pistol as well?

Todd.

 

[cslinger]

As far as I know the 90TWO is basically a Beretta 92A1 with the exception of the grip frame. So most any 92a1 knowledge and parts should be interchangeable with the exception of the grips.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

As far as I know the 90TWO is basically a Beretta 92A1 with the exception of the grip frame. So most any 92a1 knowledge and parts should be interchangeable with the exception of the grips.

Then it is a swaged-in, solid pin removed by driving the pin from bottom of slide to top past the swaging.

Then, smooth the displaced metal in the slide - should be two swaging or staking marks. Do not try to move the slide-material displaced by driving the pin out, back into its original location as retention.

Then, when the new pin is installed, re-stake/swage in at least one different location.

Todd.

 

[tarosean]

As far as I know the 90TWO is basically a Beretta 92A1 with the exception of the grip frame. So most any 92a1 knowledge and parts should be interchangeable with the exception of the grips.

No the A1 has the pinned head.

 

[Shipwreck]

I knew there were some internal changes but wasn't aware that the extractor pin was different. Looking at a couple different parts suppliers shows that the pin is very different and grooved. Maybe drop some penetrating oil ontop of it.

@Shipwreck, Your thoughts???

I have owned 2, but it was only for a short period of time. I never took the slide apart. It SHOULD be the same pin, as far as I know

I would go ask here: berettaforum.net