Can bullet design go any further?

[Desert Dog]

Type 1 phaser for me thank you...

 

[Moparmike]

Phaser. Barring that, a .50bmg necked down to a grain of sand made of tungsten. Oooh, a tungsten flechette round, but only one spike....


How about Mercury-cored lead/copper jacket hollow points? As the lead expands the mercury keeps going and causes more damage and gets out into the body causing massive damage because of its density, with the added effect of insanity/inftertility/death.


"Now that's just mean!" Fairfax, from the movie Payback

 

[41mag]

I always did do better in English than math.

 

[Tharg]

Ya - rekon there are huge advances in the gause way....

imagine a room temperature supercooler mounted so the magnets don't get to hot... launching... whatever... <rofl>

Read about the caseless ammo stuff too...

and the machine gun thingie that launches wall after wall of bullets out of a tube... each ignited electronicly from a tub magazine/barrel.... one after the other... the launching of the one bullet expands the next bullet so that leak-through doesn't also make IT go off...a nd the one after it... and... etc....

hehehe

all sorts of stuff... just the tech, the knowhow, and the need for it that matter... and since there is always a need for military arms.... there will always be advancements in the field... +)

J/Tharg!

 

[Tamara]

Or perhaps "gun cleaning" ammo?

Been done. When the .58 Springfield musket was standard issue, the US army introduced lead bullets with zinc washers around them near the base to scrape out fouling. I think soldiers were expected to fire one of these every tenth shot or so...

 

[Mikul]

I've been thinking of a two-stage round. This would only work in long cases, like a .38. There would be a sabot in something like .17 on the top and a full-sized round underneath. IF (and here's a big IF), you can get both rounds to hit the same point, you'd give the second round excellent penetration because the small first round would have punched a hole in the surface and his big brother could sail in behind.

 

[P95Carry]

Mikul ... it'd seem that the double projectile concept would not work ... simply due to firstly ... the larger and heavier ''under bullet'' would determine what happened re velocity from powder burn (thus the sabotted .17, for example - would not get much or enough of a kick to get going) ... secondly .. the disparity between ballistics and thus trajectory would rule out any chance of POA coincidence. JMO.

 

[HankB]

The KTW round was made using tungsten . . . It was made to pierce soft body armour.

No, it wasn't. It was made to pentrate things like car bodies and such. When first introduced circa 1970, soft body armor was very uncommon. (When did Second Chance first start using Kevlar to make vests?)

How about Mercury-cored lead/copper jacket hollow points?

I remember seeing "Mer-Core" bullets as reloading components at a gun shop outside Chicago around 30 years ago. neither my father nor I wanted anything to do with them, as we both knew mercury was toxic.

My idea . . . how about a hollowpoint with a bunch of tungsten rods inside, held together with a conventional copper jacket. The rods would be sort of like captive "flechettes" and longer on the edges, shorter towards the bullet axis, to form the hollowpoint. You could fill the spaces between the rods with something like potassium metal, and put a Teflon ball up front, to make it sort of like Pow-R-Ball ammo. On impact, the tungsten rods would tumble and scatter, aided by the violent exothermic reaction of the potassium.

On a more down-to-earth level, I'd like to see a commercial HBWC seated backwards, in .38 +P or .357, to give today's little J-frame snubbies more punch. The original Hydra-Shok Scorpion ammo was based on this concept (though they added the famous post) but the loading offered was disappointingly anemic.

 

[Hawk]

How about self-propelled?

'Course, it's not really new - something like 50 years since the prototype was made.

Caseless ammo is alive and well: VoereVEC91

I've gotta have one, for not other reason then that it gives these guys a case of the vapors: VPC Too bad it's such an old rant. Maybe they'll update if we do a group buy.

 

[rock jock]

Ice bullets........you know, like on TV.

 

[The_Antibubba]

Funny you should bring it up...

I'm in the process of patenting my new TARDISTM rounds-Now you can hit your target BEFORE pulling the trigger!