Can someone tell me about the new US AG (AWB Discussion Here!)

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I was having dinner tonight at work and watching CNN since we don't get Fox and Lou Dobbs was on and getting ready to talk about something the new Attorney General was doing or at least planning that was an infringement on our 2nd Amendment rights in relation to the goings on down close to Mexico. Can someon elaborate and fill me in. I had to run out to a case and didn't get to finish dinner or see the segment.

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JTMcD.
 
eric holder speech

the part about the reinstatement of an assault weapons ban is at the 20 min mark on the video.
 
Hes down there on a diplomatic trip to let them know what cowards we all are.
 
Seriously though, the cartel related violence is seriously out of hand in Mexico. The cartels also posess some serious firepower. There is concern that some of these guns are being purchased by strawmen in America, and smuggled over the border to Mexico. One recent raid revealed that the cartels were in posession of 7 Barrett 50cal's, the ban on posession of rifles in this caliber is not far away. I concede that some of this is possible, however the cartels also posses many full auto ak-47's and RPG launchers. I dont know about you guys, but my FFL has been out of stock of RPG's for a while now. Unlikely those items are coming from here. Ill pass along the text of an email I recieved today, but unfortunately, I cant seem to get the pictures to come across.
Below is from one of my colleagues- Regrettably the situation continues to deteriorate - Avoid travel to Mexico-

Doug Ross, Field Program Specialist, NDIC, New England





This occurred about 6 miles from the us border

-----Original Message-----





COMING TO AN AMERICAN CITY NEAR YOU



Scenes from the aftermath of a shootout yesterday between cartel members and military/federal agents at Reynosa, Tamaulipas Mexico.





These are pictures from the battle that took place across from Hidalgo a couple of days ago. While it moved through 6 areas of Reynosa, most were within a couple miles of the international bridge. Not too far from where many of our folks work. Some are graphic, below is a summary:

The gunfire volleys between federal police officers and suspected gang members occurred in six parts of the city and were attributed to the Gulf Cartel's struggles to maintain control of one of the key pathways for smuggling drugs into the United States. This city is said to be key territory for the cartel's drug-smuggling organization and its assassins, the Zetas. It is across the Rio Grande from McAllen and is one of Mexico's most important manufacturing centers. The violence involved automatic weapons and grenades and began when police stopped a vehicle at a checkpoint in an upscale neighborhood of Reynosa, witnesses said. That set off running gun battles through the streets, with gangsters commandeering vehicles and using them to block intersections. Witnesses said the battles raged on for more than an hour Tuesday morning. Civilians ran for cover and children crouched under desks.



Careful some photos are graphic.
 
If Mexico is so concerned about illegal weapons coming over the border, maybe they should get serious about border security. Stop sending us Illegal Aliens and they will stop bringing back illegal weapons.
 
The cartels are professional smugglers for God's sake! They have limitless money and well developed resources. If they can smuggle drugs into the US they can certainly smuggle military armaments into Mexico! The notion that this is due to gun shows is absurd. Not that logic means much to some people.
 
"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. We need to ban AW's in the US just to benefit Mexico? It's our problem the cartels are getting into mexico with AK's? Is this guy ****ing nuts? Wait... dumb question, sorry.
 
They tried this "guns from the USA causing violence in Mexico" before. 5 years ago when they wanted to renew the last ban. The public didn't buy it then.......
 
But I don't think anybody is truly paying attention to the words. It sounds good on its surface so people will applaud without realizing what is actually going on. Obama is still the nation's savior in too many eyes.

Granted, I hope you are right. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the public didn't fall for that crap.
 
Legalize drugs to protect your gun rights. In a very real way the U.S. is the direct cause of Mexico's drug cartel war. No I'm not joking.

Legal drugs means legit, tax paying, law abiding companies who are unlikely to engage in murder sprees running things. Legit sales means lower prices which takes away the incentive and costs of illegal drugs which means less reason for drug cartels to engage in murder sprees. Legal cheap street sales at 7-11 means street level drug dealers can't compete and engage in fewer murder sprees. Cheap legal drugs available at 7-11 means Junkies who can all of a sudden afford to buy their junk are less likely to rob you or break into you car or house to steal your stuff. Getting robbed and burglarized less often also tends to mean fewer murders from robberies and burglaries gone wrong. With all of the big incentive for violence squashed by legit businesses there is less need for illegal guns in Mexico which means our benevolent federal overlords have to find a different excuse for regulating our guns.

Al Capone killed people because booze was illegal and expensive. When prohibition ended so did that particular part of America's criminal history. Has anyone here ever heard of a shoot out between the Budweiser truck driver and the Coors truck driver? I thought not.

Legalized drugs=less violence
Legalized drugs=increased tax revenue
Legalized drugs=smaller, less agressive/intrusive government (rejoice tin foil beanie wearers)
Legalized drugs=more freedom for all (rejoice all)
 
Grumpy, to complement that argument...

Illicit drugs, which by definition are of course illegal, kill more people every year than there are gun homicides. And that's just the drugs themselves, not counting all that violence that you were talking about that surrounds the trade. But if the drugs are illegal, how can they kill people? When they are illegal, don't they disappear? NO. And its insanely stupid for these gun control freaks to think banning guns will be any different.

Not to mention alcohol kills like 5x the number of people illicit drugs do. And of course, there's no documentation of marijuana ever killing anyone, yet we waste gazillions of $ a year chasing it, locking up criminals committing victimless crimes, etc.
 
I call wrc376 troll.

almost any hunting rounds will easily cut through almost all police body armor.

.308 Win, extremely common, will cut through military grade armor, Interceptor (without the plates)

Plus, as the personal writings of the Founding Fathers indicate, 2nd A is for stopping the Government as last resort, that requires you to be able to do some serious damage to military, which means armor piercing rounds should be legal.
 
"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum."

The attorney general will infringe on one of our inalienable rights to achieve a "positive impact in Mexico?"

What???? :banghead:
 
After all the preaching I did to my liberal friends:cuss: (I know, get new friends) that gun bans would be on the new administrations agenda early on, now all the crying will start. On the comments section in the story some are so disenchanted with Obama they are resigning the Democratic party.
We have 600,000 deer hunters in Wisconsin, somebody please tell me what the h*ll they think when they vote.

If we let any more infringements on our 2nd amendment, it will prove Eric Holder is right, we are a nation of cowards.
 
On the comments section in the story some are so disenchanted with Obama they are resigning the Democratic party.
We have 600,000 deer hunters in Wisconsin, somebody please tell me what the h*ll they think when they vote.


They didn't..


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Who, I didn't know that the AG could not only raise expired laws and bills from the dead but can raise, sponsor and co-sponsor bills as well.....:rolleyes:

This is just same old empty rhetoric from the campaign trail regurgitated as a sound bite for the press as part of "Look, we're strong on drugs...honest".

Wait for a real bill before entering tail spin mode.
 
I'm glad my shipment of 14 PMags came in yesterday, get yours while you can.

I went to Walmart yesterday, no .22 bulk packs, no .223, no .45 ACP, no .38 special and that was all I checked for. Lots more empty spaces.

If you thought guns and ammo were selling before, just wait till the mainstream catches on to this.
 
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