The-Fly
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in my state (Colorado), you can loan a firearm to anyone who's qualified to own a gun (aka, no crooks, nutcases, etc). If a TRUE friend asked to borrow one of my guns, I'd do so in a heartbeat.
Can you let friends borrow your handgun ?
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Rockrivr1
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I have a friend who's heading to the Police Academy and the department he was hired at carries Sig 229s. He doesn't own one, but I do. He asked if I'd take it to the range when we went and I let him use it for the time we were there. When we were leaving he offered to take it home and clean it for me and get it back to me the next time we got together. Well we meet up every couple weeks and for whatever reason I was not very comfortable with someone else having one of my handguns for that amount of time. I told him not to worry about it and that I'd clean it. I guess his offer to clean it would of technically been borrowing it. I'm sure he would of used it during the time to practice and I have no problems with others shooting my handguns. Just I wanted it back in my safe and not someone elses.
To many things can happen now a days to take the chance of losing a permit if something happened. The permit was hard to get in the first place.
To many things can happen now a days to take the chance of losing a permit if something happened. The permit was hard to get in the first place.
Aguila Blanca
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IANAL but my view is that once a firearm passes out of my direct control, a "transfer" has been made. I have wondered about this with regard to Alaska. I want to visit friends there, and I can't carry a handgun through Canada. I don't want to deal with the red tape of trying to fly with a handgun, so my choices are to either borrow one of his, or ship one of my own handguns to me at his address, carry it while there, and then ship it back to myself at home.
I was under the impression that borrowing constituted a transfer, so I was gearing up to ship a pistol to myself.
I was under the impression that borrowing constituted a transfer, so I was gearing up to ship a pistol to myself.
gt3944
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How can I put this in a nice way???
No...NO...no...nO
No...NO...no...nO
JJpdxpinkpistols
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Yes, Yes and Yes.
Considering that I have 3 friends in this world. Three tried and true friends, all of whom I have know for over 1/2 my lifespan, the answer is Yes. I would loan a friend my gun, ammo, cleaning kit and all. I would probably ask what they were planning on shooting at, tho...I have several kinds of ammo...don't wanna be shooting wadcutters into bears, or using a slug as an HD round in the shotgun.
LiquidTension
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I have a few friends that I'd loan a weapon to. One of my best friends I wouldn't, but not because I don't trust him. Due to his living situation, people that he doesn't know well are in and out of his house sometimes. Him, I trust; them, I don't. Come to think of it, of the people that I'd trust with my weapons, none of them have a way to secure one. So at this point I guess no, I wouldn't loan a gun to a friend.
gulogulo1970
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I've done it. I'd do it again but it depends on the friend.
Some close, responsible friends, it would be no problem. Some others well, no thanks.
Some close, responsible friends, it would be no problem. Some others well, no thanks.
my brother moved into a crappy apartment building where the main door didn't lock, and the apartment door was paperthin, I lent him my only handgun at the time, a taurus model 66 357, and in turn borrowed a makarov from a good friend of mine.
When my cousin, whose parents lived in the big city, as opposed to the rest of us who were living in the country at the time, took firearms training, he did it with an old mossberg boltaction 20 guage.
When I took 3 freinds out shooting who had never been shooting before, I borrowed two different .22 handguns to supliment my own collection.
When I was away at college, I borrowed a LC smith 16 guage and an old sears/robuck over under 20 gauge so my roomate and myself could go hunting with a buddy who had a cabin 2 hours away from campus.
Nothing wrong with borrowing IMHO. Now, they are right that you many have to worry about getting it back in pristine condition, but then, I've always had access to guns that were more tools than show things. The old barn shotgun or the back of the pickup beater, or whatever.
When my cousin, whose parents lived in the big city, as opposed to the rest of us who were living in the country at the time, took firearms training, he did it with an old mossberg boltaction 20 guage.
When I took 3 freinds out shooting who had never been shooting before, I borrowed two different .22 handguns to supliment my own collection.
When I was away at college, I borrowed a LC smith 16 guage and an old sears/robuck over under 20 gauge so my roomate and myself could go hunting with a buddy who had a cabin 2 hours away from campus.
Nothing wrong with borrowing IMHO. Now, they are right that you many have to worry about getting it back in pristine condition, but then, I've always had access to guns that were more tools than show things. The old barn shotgun or the back of the pickup beater, or whatever.
PinnedAndRecessed
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Some of these guys know whereof they speak.
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=169455&highlight=ffl+transfers
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=169455&highlight=ffl+transfers
gunsmith
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I can think
of very few people I would loan my gun to, all of them have firearm experience and can afford to replace it.
but they all have their own firearms anyway.
of very few people I would loan my gun to, all of them have firearm experience and can afford to replace it.
but they all have their own firearms anyway.
Sleeping Dog
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Same in MI, need the green inspection ("we don't call it registration") card. I usually ignore this at a range, letting someone shoot a handgun, but it's probably illegal.
ctdonath
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Depends on the state.
NY: no. You can't even, legally, let anyone else TOUCH your guns - even your spouse. If that serial number isn't on your permit, you're not permitted.
GA: yes. Here ya go, clean it when you're done, don't do anything stupid/illegal.
What state are you in? Check www.packing.org for details.
- Some require nothing.
- Some require a permit to own any gun.
- Some require a permit to own a specific gun (by serial number).
- Some require a permit to carry concealed.
- Some have combinations & variations of these.
NY: no. You can't even, legally, let anyone else TOUCH your guns - even your spouse. If that serial number isn't on your permit, you're not permitted.
GA: yes. Here ya go, clean it when you're done, don't do anything stupid/illegal.
What state are you in? Check www.packing.org for details.
- Some require nothing.
- Some require a permit to own any gun.
- Some require a permit to own a specific gun (by serial number).
- Some require a permit to carry concealed.
- Some have combinations & variations of these.
The Real Hawkeye
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In States that do not impose a legal prior restraint from doing this, you may do so, however, civil law may hold you liable for civil penalties if a jury determines that you had prior notice that the person to whom you lent your pistol was a potential danger to others, i.e., a reasonableness standard will be applied to your judgment in lending your handgun to that individual.
The Real Hawkeye
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I lent a handgun to my nephew for a hunt we went on together. I don't know if that counts, because we were together the whole time. As for lending guns in general, I decide on a case by case basis.
I would loan a friend a gun to use while shooting together, where I could tightly supervise what he/she was doing.
To loan a gun to someone to take out of your immediate control is negligent and stupid. If anything unfortunate happened, you would very likely be held criminally, or civilly liable.
K
To loan a gun to someone to take out of your immediate control is negligent and stupid. If anything unfortunate happened, you would very likely be held criminally, or civilly liable.
K
Graystar
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That depends on the state. In most states firearms are simply property. There's no registration or licensing of their possession. Basically, if you are in possession of it then it's yours (or to whoever you believe owns it.)
In New York State handguns are registered so I couldn't loan any of my guns to anyone, except to another licensee while at the range (an explicit exception stated in the law.)
In New York State handguns are registered so I couldn't loan any of my guns to anyone, except to another licensee while at the range (an explicit exception stated in the law.)
crazed_ss
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Depends on the tool
Yes
Nope
I'd never let my friend "borrow" a gun. If he wants to shoot, we can go to the range.. if he needs a gun, he can go pay 500 bucks, wait 10 days and get his own gun.
Guns are expensive and friends do stupid stuff. I wouldnt want to risk my gun being taken if the friend decides to tote it in his waistband.. I'd mostly be scared that it'd be used in a crime and I'd be responsible.
offthepaper
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You know right from wrong. Hopefully the requesting party knows and acts accordingly. But in the end, You gotta go with your gut instincts and stick by them. The requester will have to accept the decision and not harp about why, or try to sway you.
The Real Hawkeye
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You are. If, for example, you loaned a car to someone who didn't know how to drive, and they killed someone, you'd be liable for damages. You knew, or should have known, that they didn't know how to drive. Same kind of reasoning applies to firearms.
carnaby
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As long as he knows how to use it. I have a couple friends (not related) whom I'd loan anything to at any time.
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