Can you swage primer pockets while loading?

[Scout21]

I've been using a friend's Dillon XL750 for a little bit and have decided to get my own Dillon XL750. I've amassed a decent amount of crimped .223/.556 brass and I'm looking at getting the RCBS 9481 Primer Pocket Swager. I'm curious if I can use the swager while loading or if I have to swage first and then retool for the loading process. I asked my friend, but unfortunately he doesn't know as he doesn't reload crimped brass.

 

[AK Hunter]

I always swage as part of the brass prep. After everything is done with the brass that I need done then I start loading.
With the price of primers these day I hate messing up any.

 

[Highland Lofts]

I don't know if you can do it that way. I always take care of the crimped pockets early in the case pres.
I love RCBS products but hat their crimp die.
I liked the Dillion 600 pocket swagger and bought two of them. One set up for small primer pockets and another for large primer pockets.
I then had an adapter made up so I can attach a primer rramer into my cordless drill and taking care of the crimped primer pockets are a breeze now. Alot faster and less BS.

After I load the ammo I coat the end of the case with a red sharpie so after firing the ammo I know they have been processed for crimps with out straining my eyes looking at each primer pocket on the next reloading session.

 

[IMtheNRA]

No, that tool is meant for a single stage press. As far as I know the only presses that allow swaging while loading is the Dillon 1050 and 1100.

I use a 1050 and the swaging feature works perfectly.

 

[243winxb]

he doesn't reload crimped brass.

Smart man, follow in his foot steps.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Are you drinking water while doing this? If so read this thread too:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/lead-poisoning.907093/

No, I’m not intending to be a wise guy.

 

[N555]

Crimped primers arent a problem with the correct tool. I use the dillion super swage.

 

[Scout21]

Smart man, follow in his foot steps.

The range pick up brass is just too plentiful to forgo if it's not too difficult to prepare.

 

[9mmepiphany]

As far as I know the only presses that allow swaging while loading is the Dillon 1050 and 1100.

The Mark 7 Evolution, Apex, and Revolution all allow swaging as part of the reloading process.

The new Frankford Arsenal F-10 also includes swaging as part of the reloading process

 

[9mmepiphany]

I'm curious if I can use the swager while loading or if I have to swage first and then retool for the loading process.

The RCBS tool is designed to be used on a single stage press.

If your interest is swagging more efficiently there are other tools. I swag on my Hornady LNL AP with their dedicated swaging toolhead. You can also swag with the attachment on a Lee APP

 

[Scout21]

The RCBS tool is designed to be used on a single stage press.

If your interest is swagging more efficiently there are other tools. I swag on my Hornady LNL AP with their dedicated swaging toolhead. You can also swag with the attachment on a Lee APP

That's unfortunate. I'll probably end up using a reaming tool, then. Thanks for the help.

 

[AK Hunter]

Are you drinking water while doing this? If so read this thread too:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/lead-poisoning.907093/

No, I’m not intending to be a wise guy.

Yep it's not a good idea to eat or drink while you are doing anything on the reloading bench. Just too much chance of lead contamination. I always wash my hands & face after reloading, before eating or drinking.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

I like to get on a first-name basis with all my brass. I avoid shortcuts and being in a hurry. Learned a long time ago, life's just too short to be in a hurry. Being in a hurry usually makes it shorter.

Use a hand tool to swage your primer cups and use it as an opportunity to inspect each and every piece of brass you're going to fill with explosives and hold close to your brain box.

 

[jmorris]

The 1050 and other 4 digit presses Dillon offers have a swage station built into #3.

At the same time the tool head comes down, expands the case and pushes the case downward, an eccentric pushes the swage rod up not the pocket.



I still do two pass loading though as I also use the Dillon trimmer but it does remove the swage step and makes it concurrent with loading.

 

[Varminterror]

he doesn't reload crimped brass.

About the time my son was born, I adopted a strategy to spend my time, money, and energy more wisely - any scrap military crimped brass I bring in, I resell and use the proceeds towards commercial brass. Better product, less work, win-win.

I did buy a second Lee APP just for my son to decap and swage on, since he likes to pick up range brass in large volumes, but he’s selling it as processed brass, and also converting the proceeds into first quality commercial brass (and LEGO).

 

[jmorris]

any scrap military crimped brass I bring in, I resell and use the proceeds towards commercial brass. Better product, less work, win-win.

You could sell all your brass once fired and use just new brass every time.

 

[sevt_chevelle]

That's unfortunate. I'll probably end up using a reaming tool, then. Thanks for the help.

No way in hell would I do that.

You got a Dillon case feeder, buy a lee app press, hook that app to the Dillon feeder and process your brass.
Their is a company that makes a go-no gauge for primer pockets. Use that gauge when setting up the app swager. Now you are not finger humping every single piece of brass.

 

[Archie]

I talked to Dillon several years ago about using a swaging 'post' on my XL 650 (forerunner of the XL 750) and they said it wasn't possible. The force needed to swage the pocket was enough to rip the rim from a case. The Dillon 1050 had then - seems to still have - a separate station and a different system of swaging.

The single stage set up is the only thing that seems to work. I used to use a neck reamer to remove primer crimps. Now I just use commercial brass.

 

[derek45]

 

[Varminterror]

You could sell all your brass once fired and use just new brass every time.

The economics get underwater fast when you eat the depreciation of new brass over only one firing.

 

[FROGO207]

I set things up so that I could spend the winter months processing the brass I had on hand and then just prime and load things as I need them the rest of the year. I do have a couple 5 gal buckets of once fired 5.56 brass to go through however. The brass only needs to be swaged once and it can be reloaded numerous times thereafter. Part of my prep is to anneal the necks and I know of nobody making a press that incorporates this feature in it either. So I have come to the conclusion that doing things seperatly is the best course.