Canada banning all handguns (yeah really)

[bjbarron]

Should we be so hard on our gun-totin' brothers from the Great White North.

I read that the Canadian gun registration was a monumentally expensive failure and got less than 25% of available firearms registered. That tells me that 75% of Canadians were either (1) thinking ahead, or (2) do squat what the gov'ment says anyway. As for the 25%.... You lose.

What makes the northern species of moonbat think that a confiscation program is going to work any better than 25% ?

The aim of a socialist government is to make every man a criminal for something or other. This is just more of the same.

 

[Lucky]

Every firearm you buy has to be registered at the store. It's pretty harmless, they call Quebec, talk for a minute, and 2 minutes later hand you your receipt and tell you to hang onto that until you get a green piece of paper in the mail, 2 weeks later.

Now it's just BS. I got ALL my stuff through stores, so it's all registered, even a lever action Winchester.

Liberal SOBs are going down. It gladdens me that the majority opinion vitriolicly despises them, and they haven't won a seat in my city as long as I've been alive.

 

[kbarrett]

Every firearm you buy has to be registered at the store. It's pretty harmless, they call Quebec, talk for a minute, and 2 minutes later hand you your receipt and tell you to hang onto that until you get a green piece of paper in the mail, 2 weeks later.

Now it's just BS. I got ALL my stuff through stores, so it's all registered, even a lever action Winchester.

Liberal SOBs are going down. It gladdens me that the majority opinion vitriolicly despises them, and they haven't won a seat in my city as long as I've been alive.

Secede.

Split Alberta into three pieces, join the American Commonwealth as US territories, and take a statehood vote in each part.

The population is large enough to qualify as three different states ... that way you end up with 6 mostly conservative new US senators, as well as a bunch of folks in the house of reps.

 

[robertbank]

Lets's get a few things straight. We gun owners have been fighting these bastards now for most of my adult life. In a Democracy such as ours and yours for that matter large urban populations can control the legislative adgenda. The Liberals in this country can get elected by carrying Toronto, half of Ontario and a few other urban seats and that is what has happened.

We can't buy a handgun, rifle or shotgun without registering the darn things. I can tell you all straight, they will never get my handguns, NEVER, period. This is not a done deal and anything I can do over the next eight weeks to prevent them getting elected I will do.

Follow this closely because you can expect the Democrates to go this route as well if given a chance.

The only fly in the Liberal oitment is that firearms are personal property and that according to our constitution is a provincial matter so seizing our firearms is not going to happen at the federal level anytime soon.

By the way I do have WD 40 and I think my grass will grow much better with a conservative dose of oil once or twice a year.

Stay Safe

 

[Lucky]

If we secede it probably won't go like that Not much point leaving the immediate gun confiscations for the soon-to-come ones.

In reality the only closest suggestion is something called 'Cascadia' or some such, heroin-induced dreamworld stuff, Washington Oregon and Montana join BC Alberta and Saskatchewan. lol.

More likely is that if you have a referrendum to secede, the Federals fly over to your province and suddenly pretend they don't despise you, and make all sorts of promises.

What I'd like is what the Quebecers always spouted. I never believed them, but they said things like 're-evaluate our position in the confedereation' or 'limited autonomy' 'partial seperation of some areas'. I never really believed them, but maybe they had the right idea.

If we can turn Canada into something like the EU I'd like that, where the Federal gov't exists only as a co-ordinating body, and each province or territory has a large degree of autonomy, that would be nice.

 

[QuickDraw]

that registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation. It might not be today or tomorrow, but registration always ultimately leads to confiscation. It happened in CA, NY and DC,

Is there something I should know?
I still have all of mine,gonna get a Marlin in
.44 mag this week!

QuickDraw

 

[newguy123]

Well as a 19 year old firearm owner in this poor excuse for a country I had to register my guns when I bought them. I couldn't get them from the store before they were. So they know what I have but THEY WILL NEVER GET THEM. They can f&^k off. This is my god given right to own what I want and to have protection against evil. So I dare them to come for my guns.

Anyone know of any civil engineering technologist jobs in any gun friendly state. I need to get out of this stupid country.

Kyle

 

[c_yeager]

Every firearm you buy has to be registered at the store. It's pretty harmless, they call Quebec, talk for a minute, and 2 minutes later hand you your receipt and tell you to hang onto that until you get a green piece of paper in the mail, 2 weeks later.

Registration = confiscation, period. The only reason a government wants registration is so that they know where to start confiscating. This has been demonstrated time and again.

 

[Art Eatman]

newguy 123, you might contact the Texas Department of Transportation. There is probably something at the Texas .gov website.

Art

 

[tulsamal]

That's not right.

Single-shot and manual rifles are still allowed in the UK. And for .22 rimfire, you can even have semi-autos.

Somebody's not right here!

Here's the place that has been selling them for a few years. http://users.erols.com/apple1co/bsa.html

And here is the review of one of those rifles (BSA 12/15):

http://www.cruffler.com/review-June-01.html

.22' s are also among the most accurate rifles available; even a run of the mill .22 rifle is capable of making the shooter look good. Match grade .22's take this accuracy to another level, routinely delivering groups of better than half a minute of angle. For American shooters there's never been a better time to purchase a high quality .22LR rifle. Due to the draconian gun control laws recently enacted in the United Kingdom, many of that country's shooting clubs have been forced to shut down. As they closed, these clubs sold many of their match rifles to importers that brought them into the United States. While these rifles had been used for many years, their fine condition evidenced the great care and attention with which they had been treated. Available at a fraction of the cost of comparable rifles, these British refugees represent one of the best bargains currently available.

So I guess you are going to say they are still legal but the laws have forced the majority of the clubs to shut down? Are you allowed to own a Ruger 10/22 and keep it in your home if you are just some blue-collar worker?

I don't _know_ the answer. It would be interesting to hear since I've seen and heard lots of bad stuff about gun control in the UK and then in Australia. I seem to remember the UK even restricts the power of air rifles. Probably banks robbed all the time with those.

Gregg

 

[Lupinus]

Any well minded canadian should immigrate, we could use the votes

 

[kbarrett]

If we secede it probably won't go like that Not much point leaving the immediate gun confiscations for the soon-to-come ones.

In reality the only closest suggestion is something called 'Cascadia' or some such, heroin-induced dreamworld stuff, Washington Oregon and Montana join BC Alberta and Saskatchewan. lol.

Six more pro-firearm senators will fix that problem. Add the other two prairie provinces and you will end up with a conservative 2/3rds majority in congress. Enough to undo all the gun control since 1934, and even amend the constitution if needed.

Don't even think of confederating with the left coast ... I live in WA ... CA moonbats are moving in, fleeing the results of their socialist policies.

 

[hkOrion]

maybe we should give southern cali to mexico and take western canada for ourselves! We'll even throw in Chicago!

 

[Sindawe]

maybe we should give southern cali to mexico and take western canada for ourselves! We'll even throw in Chicago!

Can we also give the Eastern blue states to E. Canada? Let 'em set up their own Socialist, gunfree utopia?

 

[stevelyn]

We need to have a Western Canada Seperatist Party. We don't share any values with those liberals in Ontario, Quebec and the maritimes.

The western US dosen't share any values with the likes of MD, NY, NJ, MA or Wash. DC. I wish we could separate ourselves from them.

I would love to have the Yukon and NWT as a part of the US.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Unfortunately I doubt any Canadians will try to defend themselves; they'll hand over their guns like good little sheep. Just like 99% of Americans will when the time comes here.

Ninety-nine percent may be correct number, but in places like the small rural community in northwest Minnesota where I come from I think you will find the other one percent. I imagine all the sheeple in metropolitan areas around the country will get in line and bend over for the unlubricated dismantling of the Constitution, but in isolated rural communities like my home town all bloody hell will break loose. If the government were try to collect our guns I would recommend staying away from such rural places if you don't have relatives who recognize you by face. You'd not likely return alive. I guarantee that the rural sheriff's departments would be on the side of the locals, too. Troops coming in to confiscate guns (remember that the first step to confiscating guns would be to dismantle the posse comitatus act) from those people would wish they were back in Iraq where they were relatively safe.

I think for a historical precedent of what the government could expect if they went into northern Minnesota and tried to confiscate guns, they should look to the Soviets attempt to conquer Finland during World War II. I suspect our government troops would have as much success as did the Soviets against the Finnish farmers (many of whom were directly related to the farmers in northern Minnesota).

 

[iapetus]

So I guess you are going to say they are still legal but the laws have forced the majority of the clubs to shut down?

Probably something like that - there may be some law or laws that are making it too difficult or expensive for some clubs to keep running, although I don't know of any specific cases, or what particular law they are talking about.

Are you allowed to own a Ruger 10/22 and keep it in your home if you are just some blue-collar worker?

Yes, but there are hoops to jump through. See http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/index.htm for UK firearm regulations.

In short, to own a "firearm", you need a licence, and to get a licence you need:
* a "good reason" to own the firearm (e.g. you are a member of a shooting club, you are a hunter, etc).
* somewhere secure to keep it
* "good character" references from two people who have known you for at least 2 years, and who are not relatives, members of your gun club, serving police officers (I guess to prevent corruption, as its the police who approve the licence), and barf: elitist) "professional".
* No criminal convictions equating to 3 months or longer in jail
* possibly other stuff as well

Note that each firearm you own must be licenced in this way. (Most shotguns are classified as "shotguns" rather than "firearms", and licenced differently - you need a licence to own "shotguns", but that allows you to buy as many as you like whenever you feel like it, for whatever reason. They still have to be registered though).

I don't _know_ the answer. It would be interesting to hear since I've seen and heard lots of bad stuff about gun control in the UK and then in Australia. I seem to remember the UK even restricts the power of air rifles. Probably banks robbed all the time with those.
Gregg

Air rifles with power over 12 ft/lb (and air pistols over 6 ft/lb) are classified as "firearms", and subject to the licencing requirements described above. Lower powered ones are unrestricted, but you now cannot have them in a public place without "good reason".

 

[A2lockdown]

canada gun ban

i started a new thread with more info and stuff everyone can do about it. HELP!! Canada Under attack. To all Americans who are supporting us up here in the peoples republic of Canada, THANK YOU. American politics and media have a profound effect north of the border. Write to our PM and premiers, your elected representatives, the media, the NRA, everyone who has influence. If anyone has quotable stats on Brazil, Australia, Britain and/or Mexico, please post them here as they are the best ammo we have against the Liberal beast. we have to get the message out before its too late. And yes, letters on paper signed in ink are the best, but we will take any help you can give. Try to get the NRA involved in this, they helped in Brazil.
GOD BLESS
and if it comes down to it, "...cold, dead hands!" is whats gonna happen here in Alberta, i was at the range, the air was black and it felt like we were on the brink of a civil war. oh yea, the USA was formed when they got sick of being screwed from thousands of miles away, hmmm....

 

[losangeles]

Dang, and I thought I had it rough here in Los Angeles County with the difficulty in getting a CCW permit! Wow!

 

[dance varmint]

There will be a giant sucking sound as the jobs of American criminals are exported to Canada where they can make a more profitable career.
Go ahead, Liberals.

 

[xd9fan]

right you are R.H. Lee
:banghead:

 

[Firehand]

A while back a friend bought a Martini that had originally been a school rifle in England. He managed to get hold of the man who'd been in charge of the riflery program, who told him that the laws on ranges, storage, etc. had become so expensive and difficult to meet that most schools were closing their ranges and selling the rifles.

That's not counting the schools run by socialist weenies who were looking for any excuse to close them anyway.

 

[LAR-15]

This is good news!

US criminals will move north!