Canada Customs Evaluated for Firearms

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Excerpt from The Winnipeg Sun: March 15, 2007.

Guards Get Shrunk
Psychologists to evaluate border cops' personalities before they're issued guns


By KATHLEEN HARRIS, NATIONAL BUREAU

The federal government is hiring a team of psychologists to gauge whether individual border guards are stable and even-tempered enough to carry a gun.

Gearing up to arm thousands of agents in coming years, the Canada Border Services Agency wants psychologists to test the first batch of 870 candidates.

According to an online government tender posted this week, the testing and evaluation process will include medical and personality tests, "structured stress" and clinical interviews.

NDP MP Joe Comartin, whose Windsor riding is home to the busiest border crossing in the country, expects the screening will be as stringent as the process used for the RCMP and provincial and municipal police.

"It's not perfect, nobody will suggest that. But it will be as rigorous as it is for our police agencies in the country," he said.

An estimated 15% of border guards don't want to carry guns, and others won't be considered "safe" to carry weapons, Comartin said.

He said guards that don't pass the evaluation will be placed elsewhere in the agency.

But Liberal MP Roy Cullen, vice-chairman of the Commons public safety committee, said despite a stringent weeding process there's a chance some might slip through the cracks. Border agents will be trained to follow strict guidelines for drawing weapons, but he believes the Conservative government's decision to arm guards opens the door to potential greater violence.

"There might be situations where people forget the protocol, or in the heat of the moment they're confronted with a situation and suddenly you have guns blazing," he said. "That would really be a horrible thing to happen at any border crossing, but especially the more populous crossings like Detroit-Windsor where there are so many people.

"The last thing you want is stray bullets flying around."

Cullen said a safer alternative would be to have trained police officers, who are more experienced at handling hostile situations, securing the busiest crossings 24-7.

Liberal public safety critic Sue Barnes said arming guards raises concerns about high costs as well as safety.

"I think that this is something that over time will prove to be a very expensive solution. Maybe the alternative would have been a better use of financial resources," she said. "The training will encompass the safety issues, obviously. But the reality is there's more likely to be an incident if you have the situation of firearms present."
 
Oh Cana duh! -- psst I'm a Canadian too...

:rolleyes:


Anyone that doesn't think that the major cities in Canada aren't Socio-Nanny-state wannabe's are pretty much not firing on all 8 cylinders...

The NDP and Liberals will play this up to the max to get the libs whipped into a frenzy and are using this as grand-standing against Harper's government...


People wonder why I like living in the USA... :scrutiny:
 
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Good example of people who can't cope wanting to exercise control over a situation they themselves are clueless about.

Don't know why it makes me think of the public education system, but it does...
 
During one of my last trips to Canada (vacation at Niagara Falls)... I was given the 3rd degree by a young snooty female customs agent. She hounded me with a barrage of questions related to firearms. She just would not let up. Pretty obnoxious about it to. She assumed that since I was from Missouri and we have a CCW law that I could not be trusted with my initial answer to each of her 37 questions. Questions like: Do I own any guns? How many? What types? Why? Do I have any with me? Am a sure I don't have any in my vehicle? (asked this one at least 4 times). Do I have any ammunition in my vehicle? Do I believe that I have a right to carry a gun? Have I ever travelled with a gun? Have I EVER had a gun in my vehicle?

My others crossings were fine, quick and courtious.

I could see how some of them are a little paranoid or worse?
 
I'm a Canadian and they give me the 3rd degree...

Got into the Peace Arch crossing at 01:30 one day, I had just driven from Pullman WA to the border... long enough drive with 2 small children in the car, all the way non-stop.

I was grilled, probably since I had a new car for the first time in 6 years of crossing at the same point.

I finally had enough when they asked me "How long do you plan on staying"...

I quite rudely told the agent, "As long as I F'n want, I was born here"...

He looked like this :what: And told me to have a nice stay...
 
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http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Canada/2007/03/16/pf-3762185.html

Excerpt from The Winnipeg Sun - March 16, 2007

New jobs for border guard gun failures

By KATHLEEN HARRIS

Border guards who are unfit or unwilling to pack a gun won't lose their jobs.

A spokesman for the Canada Border Services Agency said the government predicted not all employees would qualify or want to carry a firearm, and that they will be placed in other positions wherever possible.

'REASONABLE EFFORT'

"We're committed to making every reasonable effort to accommodate officers who do not meet the job requirement, either through the training, the actual use of the firearm, or the psychological and behaviour testing," said Chris Williams.

"A strategy is being developed in consultation with the union to find another appropriate responsibility within the department if you don't qualify."

Williams said the accommodation strategy for individuals who aren't emotionally or psychologically suited to handle a gun "safely and responsibly" has not yet been finalized. Most who don't want, or qualify for, weapons will be shifted to other jobs in the CBSA but some could be posted in other government departments.

Ron Moran, national president of the Customs Excise Union, said Canadian human rights law requires the employer to find another position when the job description changes.

He expects most cases of those who don't want to carry guns will be naturally resolved through attrition during the phase-in period, but said some employees in "isolated" crossings may ultimately have to make a decision.

"You're either going to have to accept to be relocated or go against what you would want, which is not to be armed, and be armed," he said.
 
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