Canes and "weak" image?

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Carl Levitian

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It's been a few days since we got back from a vacation in Key west, and I've had a bit of time to process an incident that occurred there.

I hear from a lot of younger guys that they thin a cane may project a "weak" image. That maybe some predators may be encouraged by an older man on a cane. I've always had the opinion that it depends.

The second night we were in Key West, the better half and I, her sister Diane, and her fella Roy, all went out for dinner. The girls had decided on a Cuban restaurant that our landlady at the Southernmost point Guest house had recommended. The landlady, who we have stayed with on 3 previous times in Key West is Cuban, so we heeded her advice. As we'd drinking, we decided to walk and see some of the other side of Key West. The restaurant named El, Siboney, was on Catherine street a good walk from our place on the bottom of Duval street, and it was well off the tourist area on a quiet dark street. Had a great dinner, grilled gouper done perfectly, and more gin and tonics.

Before going any farther, I know that we were making some very bad mistakes of behavior. Walking back from a small restaurant down dark streets, 12;30AM, and slightly drunk, senior citizens, in a resort area with lots of down and out riff raft, was not the best plan. But hey, we were on vacation in an island tropic location, and we'd been drinking.

Walking down Catherine street, we were in a dark poorly lit area, with me and Roy in front of the girls by about a half dozen yards. Karen and Di were having a ladies talk, and Roy and myself actually started singing "Show me the way to go home." Yes, like I said, we'd been drinking. I'd say that while we were not stumbling drunk, we were happily tipsy, with a nice glow on. It had been a great day, caught tarpon in the morning, toured the Hemingway house in the afternoon, and it was Key West.

Three guys step out of an alleyway and stop in front of us, and we stop a few yards in from them. One guys starts to say something about giving them some money if we knew what was good for us, and with no warning Roy goes nuts. I'd already taken a couple side steps to the left to put some distance between Roy and me, thinking I'm going to need room, when Roy goes nuts. He starts yelling at them top of his voice 'Don't even think about it' and "Back the blankety blank off", he's gonna bust both their arms, all the while taking a step actually towards them. He's got his Blackthorn stick in an aggressive hold, and he's looking like he going to be swinging any second. I take a step forward to back him up and pick out the guy all the way to the left on my side and the guy backs up from me. All this time Roy is going back to his New Jersey roots yelling and asking these guys if they want a piece of him, and so on. Being an Italian from Paterson New Jersey and spending 20 years in the navy, Roy is pretty good at very harsh language. Very creative.

The three guys all take off running, and disappearing down and alley off Catherine street. It was over in a flash. When we went from a couple of white bearded old guys singing "Show me the way to go home" to couple of guys swinging sticks, they lost all interest in what money we may have had on us. They ran from a couple of old guys with canes.

I have to admit, I don't know how long they had watched us, when they caught sight of us, coming down the street. I don't know if having canes/walking sticks made us look more appealing as victims, or being old and maybe drunk. But one thing was clear, when we chose to fight, and all of a sudden those canes were obviously to be sued as bashing weapons, they ran. They were easily half our age, had us out numbered, and they were probably sober. But they wanted no part of a street brawl that it looked like Roy was pushing for.

I know we had some luck on our side, we violated every single rule of safe vacationing. On the other hand, soon as we went to red alert and took up an aggressive manner the three would be muggers stopped, and actually backed up when we took a step toward them. They didn't like us having the sticks in hand and looking ready to fight.

But we did take a cab at night the rest of our time in Key West. Especially when drinking.
 
If I am anywhere potentially dangerous, like walking in or out of a convenience store late at night, I make a point to 'choke up' on my cane about a third of the way down so the tip never touches the ground. I don't twirl or brandish it, just hold it at a natural 45 degree angle by my side. That way any observer can clearly see that I am not lame. No one has ever questioned why.
 
The obviously drunk part was the most likely thing they keyed off of. Lots of that in Key West and lots of drunks get mugged as a result.

The two take away points here is not to avoid looking like an easier target by avoiding being seen as intoxicated on the street and that an aggressive mindset won the day for the two of you. These guys were looking for easy prey and the two of you demonstrated that they'd made a mistake thinking of you that way.
 
Based on reading several books and starting to work with a trainer, your aggressive mindset followed by aggressive action, changed the predators to defense from offense. This put their "attack" on your terms and took away their initiative. They lost control of the situation. Great tactics! Well done!
We don't get old by being stupid......
Jim
 
I think it was Mas Ayoob who coined the term "failure of the victim selection process"

You two proved his point.

Well done except for the Violating every rule of safe vacationing part. :)
 
Another term to apply would be "breaking/disrupting the OODA loop". You shocked the muggers and broke their mental script leaving them confused and disoriented where they'd planned for the two of you to be confused and disoriented so they could dominate the encounter.
 
I'm pretty confident they cued into the singing/intoxication more than the canes as a victim selection factor.

I loved your description of Roy "going back to his New Jersey roots...asking these guys if they want a piece of him" It brought up a great mental image. Likely more effective than the Leeloo pose while fighting the Mangalore
 
I don't think it's fair to say they broke every rule of safe vacationing... for all we know, they MAY have been wearing sensible shoes, and hopefully clean underpants too.
But yes... it may well have been the sheer unexpectedness of being advanced on by a pair of angry, cane-waving oldtimers screaming to wake the neighborhood, cussing and looking to bust their heads in, that caused them to panic and run... just kind of an unexpected 'this isn't how it was supposed to go' moment.
 
just kind of an unexpected 'this isn't how it was supposed to go' moment.

:) actually thats exactly how it is supposed to go. For us.

Knowing Carl and considering him a good friend I would not hesitate to cover his six. By extension his friend must be good people also. I have no doubt the actors may be the ones needing clean draws.

Like you Owen I have done the choked up 45 degree grip, it works.
 
Carl, you certainly are involved in a lot of incidents.
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I can only guess that being an old fart, having a white beard and a bit of a limp with a cane makes me look like the old buck at the rear of the herd. Top it off with I'm not hiding in the senior citizen center, and you get incidents, as you call them.

Carl.
 
Good Move

If I am anywhere potentially dangerous, like walking in or out of a convenience store late at night, I make a point to 'choke up' on my cane about a third of the way down so the tip never touches the ground. I don't twirl or brandish it, just hold it at a natural 45 degree angle by my side. That way any observer can clearly see that I am not lame. No one has ever questioned why.

I do that as well...works great for the short haul. Adjustable length geriatric type aluminum canes not allowed.
 
I can appreciate a nice Blackthorn cane. Great description of what happened. Having been to Key West a couple of times, just wondering, were the muggers wearing dresses?
 
"I can appreciate a nice Blackthorn cane. Great description of what happened. Having been to Key West a couple of times, just wondering, were the muggers wearing dresses?"
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No, the run in with the two 6 foot tranvestites was two evenings later. We were leaving the Dominican Republic Cigar Shop and was passing them on Duval street when our nieces boyfriend s******ed. They took offense and it almost came to blows. There are some very strange folks in Key West that defiantly ain't Hemingway's type of people!:D

Carl.
 
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sgtstryker does bring up a point about something I have long noticed. In all our travels there's always a "type" that is hanging around, like a vulture looking for a meal. They always look the same, no matter where you go. This time in Key West, it was the same skinny gys, dressed in old faded jeans with t-shirts that once had something anthem, but the colors are so faded that there's just a blob of marking where some design was once. Semi long hair, lank and greasy looking, with bad skin. Even in Key West, with everyone looking so tan, the ones hanging around the tourist area were tanned but in a different way. They looked just 'eaten up' for lack of a better word. I've seen these same characters in Key West, the Bahama's, Batlimore's inner harbor, New York city, and many other places.

They always seem to be hanging around on the fringe of a tourist area, always looking with darting eyes for something dropped, or a purse not quite secured, or some behavior that may let them get a few dollars with a minutes work. But they always are the ones who look down and out, with eyes always darting about. Maybe looking for a mark, or looking for a quick escape route, or a cop, or all of the above. Generaly speaking, a predator always looks like a predator.

In Key West, was reminded of that everyday. When we went up to Mallory Square for the sunset and street performers, there was the tourists, the middle age guys in plaid bemuda shorts with Tommy Bahama print shirts, the wives in high dollar clothing from Neiman Marcus, the your couples with T-shirts from the Hemingway house or Sloppy Joe's bar. But drifting about was the scavengers. The skinny guys in faded frayed jeans and old T-shirts with the ever darting eyes and furtive manor. It's a safe bet your not going to have trouble with the old guys in plaid bemuda shorts, or college girls in skimpy shorts and halter tops. But the would be scavengers so fit the steriotype of the low life would be criminal. I've noticed that people generally look like what they are. That is in my case, if I stay sober enough to scan and stereotype.

Keeping ones wits about and looking at who's around you can go a very long way to staying out of trouble.
 
Jackals come on two legs as well as four.
Best to know how to recognize them and where they "hunt" so you can avoid them.
I've learned that a cab is cheap insurance when I have to go through or near where I'm more likely to encounter them.

WRT Key West, it has gone from "charmingly scruffy" and amusingly weird to touristy and down at the heels. I was there in April and was saddened by the changes. I was driving around late the first night having flown in around 2100 and there appeared to be a harder look to the street people.
 
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WRT Key West, it has gone from "charmingly scruffy" and amusingly weird to touristy and down at the heels. I was there in April and was saddened by the changes. I was driving around late the first night having flown in around 2100 and there appeared to be a harder look to the street people.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with that.

This was the 4th time we've had the cousins reunion at the Southernmost Point Guest house. We'd been there in 2003, 2005, 2009. The very first time in 2003 I loved the scruffy charm of the place. This time I did notice more of the skinny darty eye scavengers on the prowl around the tourist areas. More of the semi wasted looking individuals that looked less than trust worthy. There is a harder look to them now.

Maybe the next cousins reunion will be a dude ranch in Colorado.

Carl.
 
Glad it worked out. I don't know if I would screaming at them aggressively, but on the other hand, they were looking for easy prey and being aggressive is what won the day. I feel sure they noticed the canes/sticks. Cane Power!

Bullies back down more often than not when confronted with equal force. They don't want banged up any more than you do.
 
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