Canik Mete SFX and S&W M&P9 2.0

DMW1116

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My first full size 9mm was a S&W M&P9 2.0. It was a basic model and I've had it for a few years now. I also recently got a Canik Mete SFX. While the barrel is a little longer, I don't think it makes any difference for purposes of this comparison. For a while I've favored the Canik, but I started shooting the S&W more and found both are excellent within some limitations. If the need arose, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another of either, or the Mete SFT (shorter barrel) version of the Canik.

First, I was astonished by the apparent accuracy of the Canik. It shoots nearly as accurately as my Blackhawk when both are loaded with tuned hand loads. I didn't think the S&W could match it in that area. However, I recently started shooting the M&P more and found that isn't really the case. I still think the Canik is more accurate in a mechanical sense but shooting each at 25-yard targets off hand, I'd have a hard time telling the difference if you handed me two unlabeled targets. I was impressed by the accuracy of the Canik, but I'm also very pleased with the discovery of the near equal accuracy of the M&P. The Canik's trigger is just a pleasure to shoot, and it may have just taken me more time to get used to the S&W trigger.

Second, I believe the Canik was intended to run full power 9mm Nato loads, but I don't remember where I read that. When I first got it, there were a couple of bobbles when the slide didn't lock back on an empty magazine. I don't recall that happening with factory ammo, so I blame my target level reloads. I also recently had a failure to fire with the Canik and one of my reloads. I don't know why, as I cleared it, and tried the same round again and it fired just as normal. To date, I've only had one failure with the M&P, and that was likely a primer issue on one of my reloads. Otherwise, it has been flawless in terms of reliability. It even cycled my super light loads when I was trying to make a 9mm "Quiet" round. I never found a load that worked as I wanted, but the M&P ran all the way down the load range until I was to the point I needed a 9mm revolver if I wanted to keep trying.

I'll probably shoot both about equally now. The Canik has a Crimson Trace red dot and is set up to shoot 25-yard bullseye targets. The M&P has no choice but to stay with iron sights, and I intend to use it for practicing the service auto version of PPC matches. I cannot compete as I'm not a LEO, but it's a good change from the slower pace of the bullseye practice. With the factory sights, both will hold whatever ring on a 25-yard timed fire target I'm capable of holding that day. As long as I remember the intended load parameters of the Canik, I'm sure it will cycle my hand loads without a hiccup.
 
My son brought up a good point. The Canik was a purchase made with his urging. He liked the look and size of the Canik and I cannot disagree. He says he likes the feel of the M&P better. I don't really notice one way or the other which is "better", but I can see where someone might find one or the other to fit them better. The Canik handle is larger, but not much. It's also less rounded, so maybe that's what he's talking about. My general-purpose target load is a 135 grain Gallant C&C (cast and coated) bullet over a minimum charge of W231. This is very accurate in all my 9s but has fumbled in the Canik as noted above. I have a Canik specific target load I use for practicing bullseye centerfire. It's a RMR 147 grain HMW flat point and a minimum charge of HS-6. Even though it's a minimum charge, I haven't had any failures I can think of with this load. It's a real needle threading load from the Canik too. The M&P does not seem to like it.
 
I'm not going to bash what I haven't shot or own, but can state this about what I do own and shot. I have the 1.0 9mm 4.25" for 7 or 8 years, but replaced the barrel with an Apex. Shoots better and it never failed me. The hood is a tad long for doing minor fitment (good thing). Lockup time is longer which makes it faster and more accurate. Here's how you can test your semiautos.

make the firearm steady as not to move
slowly move the slide rearward
watch when it unlocks
note how far it has moved

The difference between the factory barrel and Apex is very noticeable. It's also a 10 twist instead of 16. The only factory ammo that it didn't like were the lacquer coated (some cheap ammo from Academy). The only other 9 in pistol I have is a g17.
 
I don’t really have any complaints about the M&P as it is but a match barrel doesn’t sound bad at all. Do they still make them?
 
I meant does Apex still make them and for the M&P 2.0. I don't actually dislike the trigger it came with, but it's not as good as the Canik. I gave the M&P another workout and cleaning today, running some cast and some XTP loads. It appears to like the cast bullets better in terms of accuracy, but I was having a rough range day, so it could have been me.
 
I meant does Apex still make them and for the M&P 2.0. I don't actually dislike the trigger it came with, but it's not as good as the Canik. I gave the M&P another workout and cleaning today, running some cast and some XTP loads. It appears to like the cast bullets better in terms of accuracy, but I was having a rough range day, so it could have been me.
As far as I know Apex does
 
I meant does Apex still make them and for the M&P 2.0. I don't actually dislike the trigger it came with, but it's not as good as the Canik
Yes, Apex Tactical Specialties still make their Apex Grade barrels for the 1.0 and 2.0 M&P9. The are semi-drop in and will deliver sub-1" 5-shot groups at 25 yards. I had mine fitted by a friend who is a jeweler and he sort of overdid it..I have to clean it after every match or the barrel doesn't want to come out due to the fouling. They aren't exaggerating their accuracy claims...at least with my RMR 147gr HMW over a load of N310

If you're interested in a nicer trigger, Apex offers the Action Enhancement trigger kit and a Forward Set Sear (FSS) trigger kit. You can also do away with the hinged trigger by replacing it with a curved or straight trigger
 
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Yes, Apex Tactical Specialties still make their Apex Grade barrels for the 1.0 and 2.0 M&P9. The are semi-drop in and will deliver sub-1" 5-shot groups at 25 yards. I had mine fitted by a friend who is a jeweler and he sort of overdid it..I have to clean it after every match or the barrel doesn't want to come out due to the fouling. They aren't exaggerating their accuracy claims...at least with my RMR 147gr HMW over a load of N310

If you're interested in a nicer trigger, Apex offers the Action Enhancement trigger kit and a Forward Set Sear (FSS) trigger kit. You can also do away with the hinged trigger by replacing it with a curved or straight trigger
I have a Timney on mine that has a pull about 3#'s. I could make it 3.5#, but like it where it is.
 
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That’s impressive accuracy for a service pistol. Only my Victory 22 is capable of that now and then only with CCI Pistol Match ammo. My Canik will get 4 shot groups down to about 1.5” with the RMR HMW 147 grain bullets, sometimes less. I’m in the middle of another project but I’ll look into those. Now that I think about it, only my 10/22 and Shield are in their final forms. Everything else is subject to random tinkering.
 
Fitting and using one of those barrels looks like something I absolutely want to try. When all is said and done it will add about 80% of the original price but for a sub-1” pistol I fitted myself, I’m still in on it.
 
Fitting and using one of those barrels looks like something I absolutely want to try. When all is said and done it will add about 80% of the original price but for a sub-1” pistol I fitted myself, I’m still in on it.
The hood is the only part that needed to be fitted. Mostly on the front, but did require some on the back. There are good instructions on how to fit that came with the barrel. Lock time did increase with Apex over factory barrel.
 
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