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Can't insert full magazine into Glock 22 with the slide closed

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 0to60, Feb 22, 2011.

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  1. 0to60

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    I take my Glock 22 magazine and fill it up (15 rounds) and try to insert it into the gun with the slide CLOSED, and it doesn't quite fit. Maybe if I force it, but it certainly doesn't want to go in. If I open the slide, no problem. Now, Glock's website doesn't claim "15+1" as the gun's capacity, so I guess this isn't a problem. But I was under the impression that most auto's could take a round in the chamber plus a full mag.

    Springfield claims their full size 1911s are "7+1", however I cannot seem to load a full (7 rounds) magazine into the gun with the slide closed. I can't seem to obtain the 7+1 capacity for that gun.

    Anyone else notice similar?
     
  2. RedAlert

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    I have no experience with Glocks. Still, on all of my autos, I find that pressing the mag release helps to insert the magazine and takes less force to fully seat it as well.
     
  3. JEB

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    glock magazine springs are pretty tight when new. when i got my G22 i could only load 14 rounds without serious effort. i loaded it up and let it lay for a few days and then unloaded and reloaded it. problem solved. as far as seating the mag with the slide closed, mine did require more pressure than i would have expected. just press it in untill you hear a *click*.

    and yes your glock22 can most certainly be loaded to 15+1. (mine is right now in fact...)
     
  4. 458lottTN

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    15 + 1

    Put in 15 and slap that mag like you mean it. You won't hurt that gun.
     
  5. pikid89

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    man up and ram it home son!
     
  6. Z-Michigan

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    I have a G22, this is normal. You can push it hard to seat the full mag, or be content with 14+1.
     
  7. earlthegoat2

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    Hit it harder.
     
  8. Lazyshooter

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    Load it with 15 rounds and let it sit for a couple or three days. This should solve your problem.
     
  9. fatcat4620

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    Smack the crap out of it. Use a mallet if you have to.
     
  10. ET

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    I only load my full Glock mags with the slide open. I always keep the mags one short of full when carrying spares. Not only does that make it easier to do a tactical reload it also is good for the springs according to an article I read years ago. I know there are several points of view on this subject. This is how I feel & what I do.
     
  11. gofastman

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    its normal, ram it home!
     
  12. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Without a title, some of these posts could be taken the wrong way. :D
     
  13. hammerklavier

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    Do you have an X-grip extender on the mag? If so, be careful how you hold the gun as you slam it home, or you'll get X-grip pinched!
     
  14. Holo

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    My XDm 9 does the same thing. With slide closed i have to really slap it in. With the slide locked back it goes in smooth as butter.

    To get to 15+1 just smack that bad boy in there. The tension of the mag spring is being pressed further to put the mag in on a closed slide. Its just spring tension you are encountering and slapping it a bit harder wont hurt anything.
     
  15. Drail

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    You need the optional Glock hammer used for seating Glock mags into Glock guns. (you guys are killing me with all of this "smack it harder" stuff. If you can't push it in until it locks then there is a problem.
     
  16. RedAlert

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    It scares me to see so many response from the "If all else fails, get a bigger hammer!" group. I like the responses to download to 14+1 until it loosens up somewhat. Then go for a full capacity load out.
     
  17. bri

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    Curious, why does that scare you?

    I'm with the "hit it harder" crowd. If you're concerned about smacking a magazine into place with a good amount of force, then I'd definitely be concerned about your firearm falling to pieces when you pull the trigger.
     
  18. Ben86

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    If it's relatively new this is normal. Try keeping them fully loaded for a week and the spring will loosen up. Until it loosens up a bit, just go 14+1.

    I don't go +1 capacity in order to help insure proper mag seating and slide function, but that's just me.
     
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    What you are seeing is completely normal, and will not go away even after the mag springs are broken in. You just need to smack it harder to seat the mag with a full 15 rds.

    I always seat the mag with authority even when it is not full. It doesn't take any longer to do this, but it sure will take a lot of time to fix if it is not seated and/or falls out.
     
  20. ForumSurfer

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    This. I ram it home pretty hard. As a matter of fact, sometimes I ram it home hard enough that the slide closes for me sometimes if it is locked open. It's a firearm. It contains explosions violently and repeatedly. I good, solid whack isn't going to hurt it.

    Those mag springs will last you awhile. I think +1 or -1 is going to make any negligible difference. You can go -1 all you want and you may get a couple hundred more rounds out of the mag, which isn't much.
     
  21. RedAlert

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    Usually the crowd that favors the Hit it Harder ignore the underlying cause of why something doesn't work with normal applied force.
    Yes pistols are designed to contain explosive force. But really they are meant to contain those forces when used in a proper manner.
    I can see some of you under the hood of your car with a sledge hammer wailing away and wondering why it won't start.
    I suggest you find out why something won't work and only then apply measured force as needed.
    Of course you can hammer the thing into submission, its your weapon. But I'd never let you touch one of my weapons.
     
  22. ny32182

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    In this case the cause of the extra force needed when the mag is full is well known and universal.

    You are confusing a known best practice with something... very different, to say the least.
     
  23. Claude Clay

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    if the mag spring is fully compressed when x # of rounds are loaded, than there is no room left for the bottom of the slide to push down on the top cartrage when the mag is inserted. banging on it might make you feel better but it does not the issue solve.
    try clippping 1 ( and if that dont work-2) coils of the mag spring if that 1 more round is that important to you.
    otherwise, reread RDF; esp the last sentance.

    i own no glocks but as their mags are used in other firearms, i have some experience with them. and yes, they can be tight when new.
    so the load & leave it awhile often does work. even the up-lulu may not get you to the promised round with a new mag.
    hitting or pounding on it is just plain (pre-deleated by me).
     
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  24. ForumSurfer

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    It's a magazine. There isn't anything beyond simple mechanics going on. If it won't seat then you're doing something wrong, your release is broken, there's an issue inside your mag or you aren't putting it in hard enough. A glock can be completely stripped to the point it can't be disassembled any further in about 5 minutes or less. There isn't much to comprehend here. The mags are tough, they will take the abuse. I have 10-15 that I just can't seem to wear out despite my barbaric approach.

    Actually I've rebuilt and assembled many motors in my time, including some supercharged or nitrous sniffing, hand grenade small blocks. I've restored a couple of cars, also. Sometimes you do need a bigger hammer, sometimes you need a delicate touch.

    Again, it is a magazine...not a complex piece of machinery. If one mag has the issue...investigate. If they all have the issue, hit it harder.

    Yes, it is.

    I don't work on other people's weapons, nor would I want to.
     
  25. bri

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    In this case, it's not that something isn't "working", it's a just that more force needs to be applied, to a known issue.

    I certainly wouldn't use a hammer to seat a magazine but I'll sure as heck give it a good whack with my palm, with absolutely no fear of anything breaking on the firearm.

    I'm far from any type of tactical training expert, but I'm pretty sure the "tap" they refer to in the "tap/rack/bang" malfunction drill, is more on the side of "hard whack" than "tippity tap".
     
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