Can't insert full magazine into Glock 22 with the slide closed

[GLOOB]

If you can't press the mag home without slamming/slapping/hammering, then just load 'em -1... and start wearing a skirt. And don't bother with KCI aftermarket G19 mags, because you'll probably need to trade in your hammer for a hydraulic jack.

I'm far from any type of tactical training expert, but I'm pretty sure the "tap" they refer to in the "tap/rack/bang" malfunction drill, is more on the side of "hard whack" than "tippity tap".

Sure, give it a whack when it's already in and you experience a malfunction while doing tactical drills. (As an aside, I'd like to be there when you slam your 33 rd mag home with a running start, while the slide is open.) But, when you're readying your gun for SD or home defense, you're a step ahead if you can actually press it home and hear/feel/see the mag catch close and KNOW it's seated all the way. Slapping or hammering it obscures this feedback, which is what opens the door for partially seated mags in the first place.*

Instead of slamming the mag home, just slide it in easy. Grip gun in a secure shooting grip. Then with the mag on the heel of your support hand, close fingers over the middle finger of your shooting grip, and squeeze.

*then you can start slapping it three times, just to be less unsure. Like the way the tactical doods are now working the action 3 times to safety check a gun, instead of actually knowing what to look for and being sure the first time.

 

[ny32182]

I give mine a pretty stout smack home all the time. This means I can do the same motion regardless of whether I'm loading a partially full mag, a full mag, slide open, or closed; doesn't matter, it works the same way every time.

 

[bri]

...(As an aside, I'd like to be there when you slam your 33 rd mag home with a running start, while the slide is open.)

I've never had an issue seating a 33 rnd mag in my G26, the length of the magazine seems to give plenty of leverage to push it home without a whack.

But, when you're readying your gun for SD or home defense, you're a step ahead if you can actually press it home and hear/feel/see the mag catch close and KNOW it's seated all the way. Slapping or hammering it removes this feedback and opens the door for partially seated mags, in the first place.

I agree 100%. I don't have to hit any of my mags home, on the G21 or the G26. BUT, my main point is that if I had to, I would without a second thought.

 

[toejamm]

You barbarians. Hitting things, banging, hammering, smacking.......that is no way to affect a positive response from something. I think that you should find a comfy chair, have a seat, take a deep breath, hold the magazine in a soft but firm way and explain to it that you are very disappointed in its recent behavior. Tell it that you expect better from it. That your feelings are hurt and you are very emotional about the situation. That you would feel much better if the magazine would promise to do better next time.
Big Hug, Kiss Kiss. And everything will be better. At least you'll feel better about it.

Alright, enough of that. Glock mags are notorious for being stiff, especially at first. I put a new +10% Wolff spring in my 27 mag and right now it is being naughty, pouting in the corner because it was being reluctant to take the 9th round. Load it with 14, let it loosen up and it should work.......eventually.

I work with tools and machinery frequently and seldom find the BFH approach helpful. That said, the right amount of force at the right time will work on occasion.

 

[Bonesinium]

man up and ram it home son!

Hit it harder.

its normal, ram it home!

Smack the crap out of it. Use a mallet if you have to.

That's what she said.

And I agree, really jam it in there. It might be a tight fit, but I promise it will go. You will feel when it's all the way in.

 

[toejamm]

Bonesinium,
That's good stuff! Tou'che.

 

[W.E.G.]

Chews up the top two or three rounds pretty good if you force the mag on those same rounds several times.

 

[Zerodefect]

Older Glock .40 mags may have updated followers and springs that don't seem to hold full capacity. I have a G22 mag that only holds 14, while my fresh G22 mag is easy to load to 15.

If you buy mags from a dusty shelf at a gun store you may run into this. Or the shop owner may try dupe you by giving you his lame mags instead of fresh ones.

Buy some new mags online from a company that is out of stock on mags frequenty. Lonewolf sells every G22 mag the get in. I'd start there, surefire why to get the latest most current mag/follower/spring.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

Try this: with a fully loaded mag outside the gun, push down on the top round with your thumb. When you are loading the mag into the pistol, you have to apply enough force to push that top round down to get the mag fully seated. If you want to see how far down the top round must be pushed, load the mag with the slide locked back and compare the position of the top round vs the part of the slide that pushes it forward out of the mag. Designs that put the top round of the mag further up feed more reliably, but at the expense of more force to seat the mag.

On a fully loaded mag, I shove it in there pretty forcefully, often while pushing the mag release button. Using a hammer or a mallet doesn't seem like a good idea though!

 

[Ben86]

And don't bother with KCI aftermarket G19 mags, because you'll probably need to trade in your hammer for a hydraulic jack.

You make me feel like Heeman! I got my new KCI G19 mags loaded up to 15 rounds, with the help of my glock mag loader tool that I rarely use, and they seated just fine in my gun.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

I load my Glock 19 with the slide in battery (seat, roll & rack) to condition myself to the extra effort required to seat a fully loaded magazine after clearing a doublefeed stoppage or performing a tactical reload (the slide will be in battery in both cases).

GLOOB writes:

(As an aside, I'd like to be there when you slam your 33 rd mag home with a running start, while the slide is open.)

No problem. If you examine any Glock magazine you'll see it has a feature that prevents the magazine from being over inserted. The top left side of the magazine body, near the spine, has a protruding sharp shoulder that engages another protruding sharp shoulder molded in the frame at the top of magazine well.