Carry where not allowed by accident?

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I have never liked a job so much that I would fear getting caught with one of my guns in violation of some employer's policy. If they don't respect my right to self protection, then I have no respect for the rules. I guess that makes me a hostile employee, but then, I've been called worse.:evil:
 
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I carry at work.

My boss is not armed; we are so he does not have to!

Seriously ... I am trying to take him shooting a couple weeks from now.

Nam Vet; photog.
 
Here`s a thought. If and when you do get caught, try one of you tried and true excuses.................
LEO: "I don't see what a tragic boating accident has to do with this."
 
Nope! IMO, accepting the responsibility to carry equates to having the responsibilty to not have "accidents" occur. Purposely having "accidents" IMO, is showing a complete lack of responsibilty, exactly what the other side wants.
Can be darn sure it'll get blown out of proportion and be a big red mark for the pro-side when it is discovered.
 
If it is on purpose, then it isn't an accident.

And if you've ever made the mistake, there's a chance you'll never know that you did.

Walking across a portion of property while armed, not knowing that the property is federally owned, would be that type of accident. If you've ever done something like that in the past, there's no way to know it. Unless of course, you know the property ownership status of every inch of ground that you've ever set foot on while you've been carrying.
 
IIRC, carrying a pocket knife, with a blade longer than 3", into a post office is a felony. I'd sure hate to be stripped of my 2A rights just because, come to find out that my folder had an extra quarter inch on it.
Yep, I've done that. Many times. No CCW here, but I've carried my knife into the Post Office and schools several times. I just unclip it from my pocket and drop it into the bottom of my pocket. I usually don't worry about it beyond that.
 
#1 Why publicize it? Can't see how it could do you any good.

#2 You need to find a way to better pay attention to what you're doing. Unlawfully carrying because you "forgot" is a whole lot different than, say, forgetting to get the milk at the grocery store.
 
I was coming back from Cabo and while waiting in line to check my luggage remembered I had my Buck folder w/3" blade in my pocket. I freaked. But the check in official turned her back and I was able to stick it in my bag (which was already on the table). Heck, it might even be the case that carrying a pocket knife in Mexico is illegal. I've bought switchblades in Panama and was looking for the same in Mexico. None to be found, so maybe pocket knives are illegal, since I didn't see any for sale in Cabo.

I also went on vacation in a state where CCW isn't allowed in a church. I went to church and didn't find out till later it was against the law.
 
i work at a hotel and i'm not allowed to have one, even in my car.

that said, i'm lookin over at my car which i parked up at the front of the drive with my xd in the center console as i type this.

if this hotel doesn't want me to carry in some form or another, maybe they should stop attracting maniacs with guns once every 6 months.

unless you have a high security job i don't see the point. i understand on person, but c'mon, what is the big deal with cars that these companies are dreaming of?
 
#1 Why publicize it? Can't see how it could do you any good.
A smart person learns by other's mistakes because you aren't going to live long enough to make them all yourself.


I was a flight instructor at the Army helicopter school in the 1960's. Fatal crashes were common, 65 pilots were killed.
We instructors put our Ego aside and when we had a close call, whether it was our fault or not, we told the other instructors in hopes that they wouldn't do the same thing.
This saved my life and my student when shortly after being told by a instructor how to recover out of a almost always fatal mistake, I got into the same situation.

I don't claim to be perfect, so I have no problem telling when I make a mistake or do something stupid.
Maybe it will help the next guy avoid doing the same thing.
 
And if you've ever made the mistake, there's a chance you'll never know that you did.
Yep.

I've almost carried into the courthouse a few times. Probably wouldn't have thought anything about it if I didnt see the metal detectors. So, I'm sure I've forgot a time or two at other locations.
 
Whereever there are humans....

Wherever there are humans.... there's the potential for human error....

I try to minimize my potential for making a mistake I could regret the rest of my life, by keeping things as simple as possible.

Of course, the simplest way to avoid this kind of mistake is to keep everything locked up in the vault. But to me these decisions usually come down to risk management, and (imho) in this sin sick world we live in, choosing not to carry is far from the "safest" option.

So here's a couple of my KISS principles...

1. Concealed is as concealed does: Keep your business to yourself! (This is really hard for some people to do.) If you walk into the P.O. to ship your package and forget that you're armed, just keep you cool and go about your business.

2. Loose lips sink ships: Don't advertise that you carry, as you're just going to make problems for yourself. People have a unpredictable habit of saying stupid things ("hey buddy, are you packing?") and often do so in front of the wrong people. People also have a nasty habit of being two faced and talking about others behind their back. You don't want your 'concealed' carry choices to be the topic of gossip at the coffee mess. I work at a company that, despite the owners being hunters and mostly conservative thinkers, bans firearms in the work place. Yet, for reasons that are my own, I've both intentionally and 'accidentally' carried at work. Once I was called into an impromptu meeting with all the dept. heads and the owners while doing so. Because I stay off the 'radar screen' of others, this has never been a problem. And as far as bragging and showing off go... aren't these the fruit of insecurities we're supposed to outgrow?

3. It's all about procedures: Develop a personal manual of arms that is deliberately un-complicated, then deploy it consistently. Sound, well established habits, can save your butt. And the more complicated "if then" your procedures are, the more likely you are to forget what you did five minutes ago. Did I chamber a round? Did I clear the chamber? Is the trigger lock on? Is my car locked? Not for me! I know the answer to these questions all day every day, because I do it the same way all day every day. And if some odd circumstance requires me to change my routine.... it's going to seem unnatural enough to keep my mind alert.

4. Ignorance is NOT bliss: Know the law in your state and town were you live. Know the law in the state and town where you work. Don't get your legal advise from Internet bulletin boards. Know how your firearms function. Know the four rules cold. Know the written policies at your place of employment. Know Federal laws concerning firearms. Know UPS, FedEx and USPS rules for shipping firearms and ammo (which are often based on Federal laws).

If you can do all of this on a consistent basis, you'll keep Murphy's Raiders at bay, and improve the odds that you never have an 'incident'. At least, not one that 'goes public'.
 
What is this, True Confessions?
If you forgot you forgot, remembering it now and posting it on the internet may not be the best idea.
 
I work on a US military facility. If I go to the range on the weekend I make doubly sure that anything related to firearms is removed from my car before Monday morning.
 
Yep I've done it. here in Va, you cant carry conceiled in a place that serves alcohol. Wife and I was out Xmas shopping and stopped in Applebees for some lunch. I forgot they sell booze. Oh well, I ate & left.
 
If you forgot you forgot, remembering it now and posting it on the internet may not be the best idea

Yeah, cause there are federal agents who read this, then get a warrant for your ISP records and address, then arrest you for carrying a weapon into a bar.

Wait, that's not federal.

Ok, the sheriff monitors this site, gets a warrant, etc.

Yeah, right.
 
More than once, when riding as a passenger with my wife driving, she has driven through school or federal property.

I've attempted to explain the limitations of my permit to her, but it usually goes in one ear and out the other, though she seems to have picked up on the dos and dont's over time as that has not happened in a couple of years.

As a side note, this is why we must continue the long, hard fight to eliminate all "gun free zones". This isn't an easy task, but it is worth putting in the effort. Criminalizing an otherwise upright, hard working citizen because they are standing in one place instead of another is intellectually and morally bankrupt. Why am I to be trusted at Wal-Mart, but when I go to the post office to buy stamps I suddenly become a threat that must be preemptively treated as a criminal, with zero evidence to back it up? Apparently, preemption is a four letter word in foreign policy, but it is perfectly acceptable when using it against American citizens. :fire:

Sorry for the rant.
 
I was quite nervous one time, as an accident caused a road closure. The ONLY detour (Police were directing us on where to go) caused us to cross the bridge into New Jersey.

...as we all know, if you have a handgun in New jersey, the spy satellite will kill you with a death beam, or something similar.

I crossed back into PA as soon as possible, very relived.
 
If you have a CCW permit in your state and there is not a state law against it then you can drive through a school zone while carrying. The Federal Law does not apply if you have a CCW permit from your state.
 
IIRC, carrying a pocket knife, with a blade longer than 3", into a post office is a felony. I'd sure hate to be stripped of my 2A rights just because, come to find out that my folder had an extra quarter inch on it.
Yep, I've done that. Many times. No CCW here, but I've carried my knife into the Post Office and schools several times. I just unclip it from my pocket and drop it into the bottom of my pocket. I usually don't worry about it beyond that.

Can I get a link to the law?
 
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I had a coworker accidentally carry a gun to where he wasn't allowed. I knew he had it, but I wasn't thinking about it when we went to DC for job fair. I was thinking he has a carry permit, should be fine... till it dawned on me that DC was not Virginia, and that carrying concealed was a major no no there. I didn't mention it till we were back in VA. He looked a little pale.
 
Work on a US army base myself. There is no forgetting. Not worth a Federal charge. The funny thing is I have a duty weapon locked up on base and carry open,,,,,,,,,,,,just not allowed to bring one in. Funny world.
 
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